Duck and Cover!

This video is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen. I can’t believe that this was ever shown to children in a classroom environment. The safety video basically implies that at some point an atomic bomb will actually detonate. The “duck and cover” method would probably not save anyones life, and I believe that if there was some type of atomic or nuclear threat today, the government would either arrange a mass evacuation or not say anything at all. When it comes to a weapon that is as destructive as an atomic bomb, there isn’t much hope for anyone in the blast radius. The reason this video upsets me is because it was more likely to scare children into thinking that they would soon be burned alive, and the government used a cartoon turtle to try and make this duck and cover method okay. If the government truly believed that an atomic bomb was going to be dropped, would they provide no more relief than a safety video?

It is interesting to point out that the duck and cover method gives the impression that if an atomic bomb were to go off, it would not be the end of the world. I can’t speak for children living in the 60s, but I feel like I would have been terrified that the end was near. Religion plays no role in this video – is this because the government purposefully tries to make this bomb threat look like a routine drill? Based on our readings so far, an atomic bomb could definitely appear to be a sign of the apocalypse to anyone religiously devoted to the Book of Revelation. Did anyone at the time consider this bomb to be a catastrophe related to the sound of one of the Trumpets? An atomic bomb would lead to bloodshed, violence, anger, possible destruction of the Earth (could be considered “poisoning” the water, soil), and darkness. I wonder if children believed what this video told them, and more importantly, what their parents and the rest of America thought about it.

Kirsch: Breaking Down the Revelation

Some of this issues I brought up in the last response, for example the Revelation’s influence on today’s society, are addressed in the later chapters of Kirsch’s A History of the End of the World. The book focuses on the Revelation’s general influence on Western Civilization and highlights some of the apocalyptic writings that came before the Book of Revelation. Kirsch notes how many terms we use today that stemmed from the Book of Revelation – Satan, grapes of wrath, the grim reaper, the lake of fire, the battle of armageddon, and arguably the most famous, 666. This leads me to believe that the notion of the Apocalypse is in fact divinely inspired. Last week I questioned whether or not people would have believed in the end of the world if it wasn’t for the Book of Revelation. I think people may have ended up believing that the world would end, but not necessarily through God or Satan. However, considering how powerful the Revelation’s message is to this day, there is no doubt that this is one of the leading inspirations for “Armageddon”.
The most interesting aspect of The History of the End of the World to me was Kirsch’s seemingly legitimate criticism of the Book of Revelation’s credibility. He dismisses John of Patmos and I think it was implied that certain religious and political “leaders” may use the Revelation to attract religious followers (or in other words, voters). It is possible that people in power can exploit the hopes and fears of people who are faithful to religion;  if you’re going to talk about the end of the world, people are going to listen. Kirsch does a good job of explaining the Revelation and how it has been interpreted in a historical context, but in the end I didn’t appreciate his style of writing. I was more convinced in the first half of the book of what he believed, but in the end I found his ideas a little repetitive.

 

The Book of Revelation and Its Influence on our Idea of “Apocalypse”

I have been aware of the Book of Revelation and it’s implications for most of my life, however growing up without a strong faith in religion has caused me to bypass ever reading it or recognizing it’s significance in society. Some of the imagery described in this writing gives horrific visions of what the apocalypse will bring upon the Earth – most notably in the sounding of the Seven Trumpets. There are many different interpretations of what the text is meant to portray. Some believe that this is just a symbolic portrayal of the battle between good and evil. Others believe that the Book of Revelation is a prediction of events to come. The main question I had while reading this text concerns how much of an influence text this has had on people and our long time belief of an eventual apocalypse. Prior to the existence of this book, did people believe that there was an imminent end to our world? Many early Christians believed that the end was going to come at some point, but did it change the way they lived at all? In a time when science could not effectively explain natural phenomena and the idea of Armageddon, it is not surprising that so many people would take the predictions of the Revelation as truth. In the modern world, there is certainly a common belief that the world, someday, will come to an end. I feel that even though humans have thought this for most of our existence, the belief of how the world will end has changed dramatically. Religion is still a major influence on many people today, and even though I don’t follow a certain faith, I also have an idea that the clock is ticking. I don’t think the world will end because of my lack of devotion to God, but more because we have no control of mother nature and how/when she will stop providing for us. If not a natural disaster, we could cease to exist because of a nuclear bomb, world war, or even aliens… I wonder if people were not taught about a possible apocalypse if we would develop the belief on our own.

Please read this post carefully before your next post

Hi Everyone,

This week’s readings are probably the most challenging of the course so it isn’t too surprising that some of you have said you find them confusing.  That said, they are also crucial to your understanding and analysis of the subsequent texts so it’s important to keep working through the ideas.  Please read this post carefully to see if it helps. I will discuss some of the key concepts that Kermode and Rosen put forward for our consideration so that you will be on the lookout for such ideas from here on out and can employ them in your research essays.  But first a quick pointer about these readings: they need to be read slowly to give time for reflection.  They are probably also best read in print form rather than online. That may be just my predilection, but the point is that scanning or speed-reading doesn’t usually work for theoretical texts.

Since Kermode’s work was published first by several decades, it makes sense to start with it and then think about how Rosen takes up some of his ideas, which have been circulated widely and for some are taken as definitive in regard to our “sense of an ending.”  As Anastassia points out, Kermode and then Rosen discuss how apocalyptic narratives provide a sense of the world.  That is one reason apocalypse continues over time—it creates a sense of order from beginning to end.  Now, if you put that together with Kirsch’s historical study, it should prompt a question about just what meaning or sense of order it provides.  For Kirsch it is largely a revenge narrative that has justified violence against those deemed to be enemies.  He does not think this is a necessary sense of order, nor does Kermode.  Their view connects with what Anastassia noted from Rosen about judgment.  In traditional apocalypse (the one both Kermode and Rosen called myth), the judgment is divinely bestowed on sinners and saints.  Most of humanity falls under the sinner category and is destroyed (the catastrophe element that Rosen points out).  The chosen ones, the saints, are rewarded with the New Jerusalem.   This is the form that Kermode calls naïve because it is a straightforward, largely non-ironic version of a rescue story.  It seems pretty clear that he prefers what he calls the sophisticated literary version (modernist fiction) that refused a single ending and that brings irony to reflect on the order that traditional apocalyptic narrative provides.

That is why at this point I want to “trouble” something that Danielle said—that the story is timeless.  That is the claim that a fundamentalist believer makes, but Kirsch, Kermode, and Rosen all go to great lengths to dispel that notion, so the claim for timelessness needs to address this debate.   What all 3 authors share is the argument that the apocalyptic narrative from the Book of Revelation is elastic enough to have changed over time.  Although some of the key parts remain the same, the meanings shift and the sense of the imminent changes to immanent.  If you didn’t look those words up when you read Kermode, do so now.

Colby has taken these issues up commendably so I urge everyone to read her thoughtful post.  I have a few points to make along the way about it, mostly to try to make sure we grasp Kermode’s concept of the living in the “middest,” although under the “shadow of the apocalypse.”  He wants us to realize that time is a framework—whether it is a construction of a calendar, or hour or one’s own personal life from birth to death.  All of those markers make sense because they are widely accepted but they aren’t a “given” of reality.  We give our multiple moments of experience meaning by ordering them in certain ways.  There are all kinds of way to order the flux and in this course we are tracing one of the most prominent and prevailing ones with the apocalyptic narrative.  As all of our authors have said, some societies do not think in apocalyptic terms; rather than a linear beginning and end, they view cycles of time.  Increasingly, as Kermode points out, it has been harder to maintain a strict linear narrative—so Joachim of Fiore introduced transitional time to the traditional apocalyptic story.  This has remained popular since the Middle Ages and he points out that even secular societies see themselves in a transition that they call crisis.  Hence in the 20th century, there arose a sense of perpetual crisis. I’d say this has only gotten worse sense he wrote in 1966.  This sense of crisis effects all kinds of thought/belief, including apocalyptic belief, especially once the atom bomb was invented.  Death, for example, is under debate about when it actually occurs—so is life.  So with secular medical technology, the once clear beginning and end of an individual life has become muddied.

Eric gets special notice for his fabulous last line:  “We are the apocalypse’s clingy and overly dependent lover.” None of our authors agree with his contention that this is a need, or natural, so that is precisely the issue that should be taken up rather than assumed.  But it certainly seems to be the case over the course of history—as all 3 of our authors attest.  Part of the question here involves why it became prevalent. Again, let’s not assume that we need to think this way.  Let’s find out if thinking this way is the result of the Book of Revelation and the power plays that made it so important to Western society.  After all, Kermode says the West started thinking this way once the Christian Bible canonized Revelation and placed it at the end.  That gave Genesis and Revelation pride of place as beginning and end.  The Hebrew texts did not have this neat and orderly structure.  As Kirsch argues, the conquest of a Christianized Rome then made that structure the knowledge system of many centuries, maintaining it through preaching, war, and torture.  Eric’s reply to Danielle is much clearer in this respect in his use of Kermode’s concept of “fictive concords.” Of course a lot depends one where you see yourself fitting in—it’s less comforting if you are outside of the belief and condemned for it.

And that brings us to Cialina’s note about Rosen’s explanations of a postmodern apocalypse and to Amy’s discussion of Rosen’s term Neo-Apocalypse.  Many TV shows these days have the elements of these shifts in the apocalyptic narrative (that Kermode sees as starting with modernism and that Rosen updates with postmodernism).  I just did a book review on an example of Neo-Apocalypse, called Scorch Atlas.  It is so bleak and devoid of hope that I decided not to use it for our class.  There are more examples of the postmodern version that Rosen describes for Watchmen and in subsequent chapters from her book.  We’ll take these categories up with your next posts and on Tuesday.  Remember to take a feature of the work and analyze it.  See you then!

Sense of a (Sad) Ending

While I found myself getting caught up in Frank Kermode’s “Sense of an Ending,” and honestly struggling to make sense of some of it, I strongly connected to Elizabeth Rosen’s “Introduction.”

What I connected to most heavily based on these articles was the idea of interpretation in art of the apocalypse – especially Rosen’s idea of the “neo-apocalyptic,” and how unlike the typical Apocalyptic belief, it is marked by a kind of stark ending, with no hope given. This idea, while heavily marked in the writing Rosen herself refers to, harks back to a book I am reading called Life As We Know It, a young-adult-based novel (first in a trilogy) that was written in the early 2000’s. It features an apocalyptic story when a scheduled meteor shower goes awry, knocking the moon closer into orbit with the Earth – what happens, catastrophically, is marked by science. The tides flood, and cities and countries are drowned under due to tides and gravitational pull. This novel, marked with a combination of the scientific non-moral neoapocalypse, considers the ideas of more religious based reasoning, and now I want to analyze the book more thoroughly for its relevance in this area.

What I am most curious of, based on the study (and other studies I have heard of), that while America is becoming less of an organized-religion fan, is anything but secular on the whole, and yet how the combination of more “sci-fi” apocalyptic ideas mix with the “older” more moralist ones.

General Confusion.

When reading Frank Kermode’s “The End” and Elizabeth Rosen’s introduction, it was really hard for me to comprehend what they were trying to say. Personally I think it was just too dense of a reading for me. I understood Rosen’s comment about how we love the apocalypse, but I get lost in what she is trying to say. She discusses postmodernism as well as the many references to religion, but I’m so confused. The same would go for Rosen. There’s just so much going and I’m genuinely confused. It would be nice if someone could explain what their arguments were as a response as we don’t have class this week.

Weekly Response #4 – Elizabeth Rosen

I quite liked Elizabeth Rosen’s explanation for the modern day fascination with the apocalypse and their post-modern adaptations. She provides a convincing argument about how people turned to the apocalyptic myth during the second half of the 20th-century because of several historic events after World War II. Just from reading her arguments on how secular adaptations of the apocalypse have managed to still retain even the religious motifs, I could already come up with examples in film and literature.

Continue reading