Though many of our classmates’ points were well taken during our discussion of absolute truths and universalism, the idea that absolute truths did not exist was simply egregious.  Most of the class had the idea the idea that absolute truths lacked malleability and they were rigid.  This would be true under the basic tenets of universalism where the absolute truth is something that is similarly situated amongst individuals whose existences are consistent across the universe.  These absolute truths are present in mathematics.  I remember someone saying that one plus one can be considered not two by some people.  That has no place under this idea of universalism, where by definition, arithmetic is universal.  This is not to say that I do believe that everything consists of absolute truths; I simple believe that they can.  Good examples of these absolute truths would be the idea of natural rights that pushed the creation of the Declaration of Rights of Man and of the Citizen by French revolutionaries in 1798 and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of 1948.  These documents are prescient of the existence of an absolute truth in the form of universal human rights.
I am a firm believer of relativism— the idea that truths exist but are flexible by varying standards.  An example of this would be moral relativism, the argument that ethical propositions are not reflective of universal truths but make allusions to the social, societal, cultural, historical, personal conditions of an individual or society.

Posted by ishmam on December 14, 2008
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nihir11373 on whole page :

I agree that absolute truths can exist, but not everything is absolute truth.

December 15, 2008 12:45 am
crucibleofchaos on whole page :

Of course not, but if they didnt exist at all, then humanity is incapble of knowledge, and unable to trust his senses? Is that what you want?

December 16, 2008 10:49 pm
ishmam on whole page :

Um…I fail to see your connection between humanity’s capacity for knowledge and the existence of absolute truths. And then unable to trust his or her senses? Elucidate your “point”.

December 17, 2008 2:03 am
jamieedindjiklian on whole page :

There’s no mention of Michel Foucault, so I thought it would be appropriate to incorporate him. I recently discovered that he was once associated with the structuralist movement. As opposed to your beliefs in relativism, Foucault initially approached the human sciences by attempting to analyze a specific field as a component of a complex system with interrelated parts.

Structuralists believe that every system has a structure. They feel that structures are the real things that lie beneath the surface and the appearance of meaning. These days, structuralism is criticized for favoring deterministic forces over the ability of individual people to act. It has spawned deconstructionism and post-structuralism, both of which are historically important movements.

Foucault distanced himself from structuralism, and is sometimes characterized as postmodernist. I as well credit relativism with regard to absolute truths. Standards vary and are not always corporeal.

–Jamie Edindjiklian

December 20, 2008 11:53 pm
cherryhuang on whole page :

It’s interesting that you mention absolute truth in mathematics. I was just talking to my brother the other day about the PEMDAS operation (Parenthesis, Exponents, Multiplication/Division, then Addition/Subtraction). I asked him, “Who came up with the idea to multiply first and then add?” He replied that it was just an order of operation that all mathematicians agreed upon a long time ago. He also said that if mathematicians had decided to do addition or subtraction before multiplication or division, that would’ve been fine – just as long as everybody else agreed to abide by those rules. This really boggled my mind about the concept of universalism in arithmetic. The fact that the rigid basic principles of mathematics were established by men seems to almost make math “vulnerable.” I mean think about it, what IF those mathematicians had decided to to put addition and subtraction before multiplication and division? Then our concept of absolute truth in math would be different than how we operate with arithmetics today.

December 26, 2008 1:57 am
ishmam on whole page :

But isn’t that what absolute truth is by definition? Universalism allows us to standardize certain things and remain that way. If said mathematicians picked a different standard, anything measured against that standard would be considered absolute truth. The fact is that a standard HAS been established thus constructing a realm of absolute truth.

December 26, 2008 3:11 pm

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