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In the ClassroomFrom The Peopling of New York CityIlyaHey. I was wondering what's going on with the video and is there anything I can do to help?
Christina: I uploaded the video, its saved under WikiMovie.mov (I think? check the upload list to be sure). As for it being embedded in the train, Victor and Jonathan are working on it as we speak! Christina 5.3.08What browser will we be using to show off our wikis? Because the pages look VERY different based on whether you are using Firefox, Safari, IE, or AOL, and I wanna make sure I'm formatting my pages correctly. Ilya R.Thank you Miriam! Does anyone know what I need to do now to upload this flash file on our page (Bensonhurst)? Susan 04.30.08Yay!!! It's finally settled......not Fun-O-Wiki anymore....but...it's: "The Presence of the Past: Turning Points in NYC" Victor 04.30.08
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order to appear on page: Phil 042708 10:00amPhil 042708 I have been MIA. It has been all home-related stuff keeping me off the internet. PLEASE don't take it personally (or collectively)....you know what I mean. If you need me, call me 917-749-2118. NO WALKING TOUR TODAY because of the rain. Christina 4.27.08 I hope everyone and everything's okay! And we missed you! Phil 042808, 9:20pm Professors rarely hear stuff like that. I'm touched. Thank you. You made my day. Everybody is fine. It was a rocky 10 days. What are we doing about a party when this is over? PFN John: after this semester, I need a martini the size of my head. Christina: I wanna go to the Yellow Hook Grill!!!! WOOT! Uploading a VideoIs uploading a video onto youtube, then embedding it here the only way to get a video up here. youtube gives a 10 minute restriction to video length, and the video i want to upload is about 32 minutes long. are they other ways to do this?
Hispanic Community PaperFirst, when are these papers technically due? Monday or something? o.0 Also, a general question on how long they should be. It says 7-10 (when it was a research paper) but I think you mentioned 5-7 pages? Is that right? Maybe? Thank you! -Christina ps: Happy Passover to everyone who's celebrating it! :)
I don't want them to get in the way of your wiki work. So let's say they are due AFTER MAY 6. That is the day we show off our wikis. We agreed on 5-7 pages.
Phil 042808: Derya has a 30 page interview you can get from her and use. You can do a compare and contrast. Subway Integration IdeaSo N line idea is out of the picture... There isn't a single train line that covers all the communities. We will be instead, making up our own train line... Christina suggested the Wiki Express... It can be the W line with a red circle or something... Here's the work that me and Victor has started on... As you can see, they're just frames to start deciding on things...
Here is where we'll be talking about the N line subway integration idea.. Names for Our WikiChristina: Put some names for the wiki here!!! Suggestions for the name:
Emily Lin: Jonathan C: Maybe this is a good idea.... New York City - a trip down the N line - I looked it up on the subway map and the N line sorta runs through all our neighborhood.... what do you think? John: (sorry for the bold) A couple of years ago there was a group that did their whole site about the 7 line - I think that using the N line would be a really interesting hook, a good thread, and/or a good introduction. (end bold)
(p.s. Thank you Charissa for evoking my name :) - and for those quoting my "It's all about the man in the background." It makes me laugh and makes me know that people are actually listening!)
Phil 040908 Histowiki Jonathan L.:
The Shifting Tides of New York City Christina: Phil (again) The Changing City Other StuffPhil (040508)Three out of our four groups can use this set of maps from the NYPL: http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchresult.cfm?parent_id=772952 Phil (040308)Hi Gang, There are a number of items I want to bring to your attention 1. If 5 or more folks in the class can agree on a date and time that they would like to continue the Greenwich Village Walking Tour into the West Village, I'll do it. It will be rather informal. I'm free most Fridays (except for the weekend of the 11th), and Saturday and Sunday afternoons. 2. Don't forget that this coming Friday the 4th I am taking anyone interested through the "In Our Own Voices" exhibition at the Brooklyn Historical Society, 128 Pierrepont St. (at Clinton), at 12:00 noon. 3. Next time we meet will discuss chapter 7 of the Reimers book. 4. I'm still not 100% certain that we have a room arranged to do wiki work on Wednesday the 9th. Hold tight on that until Monday. 5. I would appreciate it if someone in the class would make a point of reminding me to discuss with you the problem of the Hispanic community research paper. We are now so backed up that if I asked you to get it done this month you will necessarily have to stop working on your community research wiki, and I don't want you to do that. Further, I had wanted you to use this sort of "controlled" research project as practice for your work on the wiki. Because of the fact that I was ill in February and the fact that BHS did not supply all of the necessary materials until very late, the whole idea of a practice research paper has become moot. Still, I had planned on making the paper a significant part of your grade for the course. Arguably we could count this work as one of the "reaction papers" and alter the assignment to make it easier to complete by dropping the required research component. Instead, you would only be asked to do a close reading of the relationship between the individual and the community as reflected in the oral histories you have. (If you have done research already it would be fine to include it in the paper.) The length would be, say, between 5 and 7 pages. In order to make this work I would have to alter the values within the grading scheme somehow. This is the original scheme: • class participation: 10% One option would be to make your wiki worth 50% of your grade. Another might be to make the exam worth 30% and the wiki worth 40%. Those are the only obvious things that I see. I would be very reluctant to change the class participation component or the value of the 2 papers already completed. I can only make such an alteration with the complete agreement of the class. By that I mean I would need everyone's written approval. The reason for this is pretty straight-forward. A syllabus is a contract between me and you. Neither one of us can substantially alter the agreement without the willing consent of the other. While I want to talk about this in class, please feel free to email me your comments on this idea. In addition to posting my thoughts here I will also be sending this out as a general email to the class. All my best, Phil Phil (040308)In order to receive an email every time this page changes you must go to the bottom right hand corner of the page and click "watch." Phil (040108)I would really like to see the demographics for each neighborhood completed this week or early next. Who lives in your neighborhood, when and why? Neighborhood Tour reaction - Greenwich VillagePhilI don't think factual notes are necessary. But what about t approach I took to looking a the urban environment? Is there anything that might be said about that? For example, two students in my Core 2.2 class said the whole thing was too brief, and that in order to get to know GV they felt that I should have continued the tour, despite my perception of the growing discomfort of the students. Is that right? What about the things I had to say about the buildings, or my selections of the buildings and places themselves? Were these illuminating or not, and if not, why not? What about my use of "quotations" from the likes of Stephen Crane and John reed. Did they help or not? And again, if not, why not? How/why might MY approach be replicated in your wiki neighborhood research? To repeat, if it should not, why not? Let's try to use this as an "object lesion " in thinking about researching and presenting research about urban space. IlyaI enjoyed the tour. I think if anything could be improved, it would be the duration of the tour and the amount of people there. I enjoyed going out of the classroom and seeing in person the actual places we are studying. I would have liked to have gone out even farther and explore other parts of the area. I think it might be a good idea to continue the tour on some future date. CharissaI think it is very useful to actually be in the place we study. No matter how much I read, I cannot really think of what it really looks like. For example, I don't know what brownstones are, so it was difficult for me to imagine it, but after looking at them, I would have a better idea. Also, it is nice to spend time outside of classroom together with classmates and professor, interaction is more free that way. It is also nice to explore places of the city I never went to. Some people are born and rise in NY but never know the city. I've been here for almost seven years, but I know almost nothing about the city. Thus, it is a good experience to walk around and look into details and essense of the neighborhoods. Furthermore, we get to learn interesting facts that we would never look into, like how the Washington Arch is hollow. Generally, I feel like when I walk in my own neighborhood, I never pay any attention to the small details that can tell me about it. I guess it raise awareness of our own surroundings and their history. I think it will be nice if we can finish the tour. However, it was very cold and we've been on the streets for a good two hour, or longer for those of us who arrived early. But if we would continue the tour, I would be completely happy with it, besides feeling freezing. I think the selection of places to talk about was very good and the tour was very informative. However, I think we spent a little too much time talking about NYU in the beginning (it was informative and intersting though), so we could not finish the tour. I got the idea of the Washington Square area, but not the whole Greenwich Village. I think I would if we finished the tour. The quotes were good. It helped us imagine what it was really like in the neighborhood at the time. I also think that there were too many people in the tour. Some people were in the back and sometimes talking about something else. It is hard enough to hear everything you say, but with the noises around, it is hard to understand you sometimes. I think our group neighborhood tour, with only five people, was more affective. This is similar to what we want to know about our neighborhoods. We want to find out who lived their, what did they contributed to the community, like memorials and building styles, then when and why did they leave, who then moved in and why, how did they then changed the community or add on to it. (ignore grammar rules for now, it's just notes) BryanI thought the tour of Greenwich Village was very enlightening and informative, and the tour increased my appreciation for Greenwich Village greatly. Before the tour, I didn't have much of an opinion of Greenwich Village; I just thought the people were generally obnoxious and pretentious. I had no idea Bob Dylan lived on MacDougal, Reader's Digest was founded in the basement of the Minetta Tavern, and other factual notes, which I think you said not to mention, so sorry about that. The method you used to explain the environment was very effective in my perspective, and I didn't notice anyone getting uncomfortable (then again, my perspective). I do agree that the tour was a little brief, and that to fully absorb everything, we should have continued the tour. The only remedy for that I suppose is to start the next tour earlier. I'm looking forward to the next tour; I hope it's as interesting as the last one! Jonathan ChanI liked the tour and visiting the park. I would have liked it more if we could go to more places. I'm not sure if it's possible, but I would have liked a look inside some of the buildings we were talking about. It'd be nice to actually stand in front of the Triangle Factory building, but we only stayed around the park. As I had to leave early, I can't say much about the rest of the tour, but I would have probably liked to cover more ground faster. I thought the street musicians in the park were a bit distracting. I actually wanted to over and check them out a few times. I think the students were not as much disinterested in the tour as to more being uncomfortable about standing in one area for an extended amount of time. I can't speak for everyone, but I would have preferred to walk a bit closer to the buildings you were talking about instead of just stand at a distance and point them out. I think we could definitely use the information to help our wiki's but I do not know if we could go house to house like you did, as that would only allow us to cover maybe 1 or 2 blocks because every block has so much history. Phil: This is a perfectly legitimate complaint, known to teachers as the "coverage problem." Do we cover one thing in depth, or do a fast pass over lots of stuff? There is no correct -- or incorrect -- answer. (040108)
Phil (04/01/08)Sources for the Study of New York City Mayor's Office of Operations My Neighborhood Statistics Available through the BC Library (login required, so I can't show you a direct URL) Search on your neighborhood through the following: America: History & Life Jonathan L. (03/27/2008)I wanted to ask just to make sure: the final pages for our neighborhoods/communities are going to be on new wiki pages or on the notes pages that we're already using? PhilSo, I've had the chance to talk to BHS about the undercount of oral histories promised to us, and they are looking in to it. In the mean time, if you have a long interview, would you mind loaning it to me? I'll make a copy can give it to one of the members of the class who does not have one at all. PhilAny or all of the above (or rather, below), as makes best sense in a short research paper. ChristinaHey, I was just wondering community we should be tying our oral histories to. My person is from the West Indian area of Panama, but she is also a Brooklyn-ite and (even cooler) a Brooklyn College student. Could I tie her to one of those, all of those, etc? Thanks guys :D! ChristinaComments - Show Original Post Collapse comments Anonymous Christina said... 1. Yes, I would TOTALLY prefer reading responses to quizzes! 2. If we have to do 3 responses, can we not read a book? If Random Family is really long, after all.... 3. I bought the book already, but I suppose I could always resell it to Shakespeare? 4. We technically need to have a final exam on that day, but it can be something else, such as the day we hand in/email a paper or the day in which we present our final projects! PhilMarch 4, 2008 2:38 PM Delete Blogger Peopling of New York City said... Christina, I'll need to post this reply on the blog, but I did want to respond to you quickly as I'm away from my computer. I'm open to a certain degree of change to the syllabus, but not wholesale change. A syllabus is in fact, as a matter of law, a contract. Minor changes are permissible, but things such as changing the grading scale are not. You seem to be proposing dropping 2 books (Rats plus one other book) plus the final exam. I can't go that far. I need the comprehensive final. Listed on the syllabus as worth 20 per cent of the grade, it forms a major portion of my evaluation of your performance and thus it is part of the grading scale. So, the exam stays. As for the 2nd book.....I need to think about it. What argument can you come up with that would persuade me that is the right thing to do? I'm willing to listen to reason, but the reasoning must be solid. You can post this to the blog or the wiki if you get to it before I do. All my best. Phil
Phil 030408I think all you have to do to create a page is search for a page. Naturally if it does not exist, the wiki will not find it. It then offers you the opportunity to create it. Pretty simple.
Gang, Here is a question for you, prompted by an inquiry from Victor. We need to talk about the quizzes. I may be willing to forgo them entirely in lieu of reading reaction papers, such as you just prepared for Ragged Dick. (If you have not given me yours yet, please BOTH email and hand me a hard copy on Wednesday, and put your name in the subject line of the email for me. Which reminds me, I need your CITI certifications Wednesday, too. Go to citiprogram.org to take the on-line learning module.) The whole point of the quizzes is to make sure that you do the reading, so it amounts to the same thing, right? How would you react to that idea? We're going to read these books between now and the end of term. • Paulie Marshall, Brown Girl, Brown Stones I would therefore ask you to write 2 page reaction papers to 3 more of the required books. (I warned you at the beginning of the term that Random Family, while incredibly compelling, is long, so start that one early.) Further, looking over the syllabus it appears to me that no mater how carefully I try to prepare these things, I make mistakes and then I'm forced to try to fix them. The problem with the March 10 date is only one example. Here is another. Because I was out for a week, I've created a calendar problem. We have more material on the syllabus than we can possibly cover. I am proposing that we drop Robert Sullivan's book Rats, scheduled for March 19 and 26. If you DID buy it, I'll buy it back from you at the cover price. (It's a great book, by the way, about a subject you NEVER though of as "historical.") Please feel free to reply on the blog (http://napolichc2.blogspot.com), on the "In the Classroom" page on the wiki, or via email to me directly. If we collectively decide to drop it, I'll have to prepare a revised course calendar and send that around to you. Lastly, unfortunately yes, I am obliged by college rules to give a final exam on our final exam date. Best, Phil pnapoli@brooklyn.cuny.edu pnapoli1@nyc.rr.com VictorHey all, I ran this by Professor Napoli, and he agrees this idea may help us, Columbia University Guide to NYCI can't recommend this page enough as a great resource! Other Archival CollectionsMunicipal Archives http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/home.html With records dating back to the earliest days of European colonial settlement, the Municipal Archives houses 150,000 cubic feet of historical government records. http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/about/archives.shtml Leonora Gidlund, Director 31 Chambers Street, Room 103 · New York, NY 10007 Open to the public Monday through Thursday 9 AM to 4:30 PM, Friday 9 AM to 1 PM For more information, call 311 or (212) NEW-YORK if outside of NYC. You can also e-mail the Municipal Archives via the Contact Us form. Individual Neighborhood PagesFind them via the navigation on the left of this page. FEEL FREE TO MAKE YOUR OWN EDITS ON THOSE PAGES. (021508)
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