November 4, 2012, Sunday, 308

Bay Ridge Notes

From The Peopling of New York City

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Pages We Are Working On
Please add any pages we're working on here, and MAKE SURE YOU WATCH THEM!
Bay Ridge
Yellow Fever
Bay Ridge Demographics
History of Bay Ridge
Bay Ridge Culture
Yellow Fever in Bay Ridge
Bay Ridge Reference Page

Any more? Please add them! Thank you!


Please insert new notes at the top of the page! :)

Contents

Christina 5.23.08

Two things:

  1. http://www.geocities.com/bobarnebeck/fever1793.html
    (Loaded with primary resources lol)
  2. ....I miss the wiki XD

Christina 5.5.08

Now that we're going into the home stretch, I just wanna say, thanks guys. You are all an amazing bunch of people to work with! Neyra, Victor, Prof Napoli, John, all of you were wonderful in somehow making this wiki possible. Despite all my freaking out at 3am over how this will never get done, it got done. And it looks beautiful. So, I just wanted to take the time to say, thanks guys, you all rock, and I couldn't have done anything without you. You all contributed so much to this project and shared the workload (if not the stress XD) equally, and as cheesy as it sounds, our teamwork was awesome. So as we go into tomorrow's final display of Fun-O-Wiki Goodness (always Fun-o-Wiki guys, ALWAYS), I just wanna say, thanks a lot. And I love you guys.
So let's kick ass tomorrow and cream all those other losers! FUN-O-WIKI FOREVER!!! WOOOOOT!!!!

<3 Christina :)

Christina 5.3.08

Totally didnt notice Neyra's post XD Just holding this here!

It was after the 1840s that the population started booming. By 1850, Brooklyn’s population had soared to 96,838, with an increase in wealthy whites. The farmlands began to fade as the city began to become less of a backwoods hamlet and into more of a haven for the rich. From 1845-1850 alone the total farm acreage of Brooklyn decreased from 3,066.25 acres to only 2,321, a decrease of nearly 750 acres in only 5 years (Table 21).

At the same time, however, income from farms was increasing. In fact, the amount of garden and vegetable production in Kings County, which Bay Ridge was a part of, rose from $84,050 in 1840 to a whopping $273,552 (Table 4) in 1854—right around the time Bay Ridge decided it needed a new name.

UPDATE: According to John, we are using FIREFOX.

THEREFORE PLEASE DO ALL YOUR WIKI WORK IN FIREFOX.

That way we'll all be on the same page, since there have been discrepancies based on different browsers. I have looked through the pages on Firefox and they all seem formatted correctly, but check again to make sure :)
And....we are ALMOST DONE BABY!!! WOOOOT!! Cruisin' into the finish line!!!!

Neyra 5.2.08

ok yellow fever in u.s / new orleans is done. I could have added more u.s info but I didn't want it to overpower the page b/c it's already pretty long. what do you guys think? We have to do the tornado anddddddd ladies and gentlemen we are DONE! :D

Christina 5.1.08

Do we really need a Bay Ridge Culture page?
I mean, I feel like we totally have too much to do to worry about that right now.
What do you guys think? I moved the map to the History of Bay Ridge page, so we'll see how that goes.

Christina May 1st 2008

For Neyra:

Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Drains in Bay Ridge, Aug 14, 1873

And, because its totally helpful:

The Price of Land in Bay Ridge, Aug 14, 1873


:)

Neyra

hello again! :D do you guys by any chance know how to upload this article on the wiki as a jpg (or w.e other format will make the actual article show up..). I tried, but it saves as a .dll and the whole thing won't save, only certain parts (click on the article and you'll see what I'm talking about.) emailing it to myself also didn't help =/

http://eagle.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Skin=BE&Source=MyColl&ViewMode=GIF&AppName=2&BaseHref=BEG/1873/08/14&EntityId=Ar00301


Phil 043008: Talk to Bailey. She managed to get it done during class today.

Christina: DOing it now!

Article on Bay Ridge, Brooklyn Eagle

Neyra

Victor, do you remember we were looking at some old photos and you were like "Oh wow, there was a pond there before?"..i completely forgot what pic and where we saw it, but I definitely rmr. so if you can, can you please find it and either post it here, or on Yellow Fever in Bay Ridge under "The Aftermath." Thank you !!

  • Christina:There was a lake where Century 21 now is, on 84th between 4th and 5th ave :)!
  • Neyra: lol i just found it and posted it up. ty!!!

Phil 043008

Rip youtube to flash

http://www.ripzor.com/youtuberipper.html


Neyra 4.30.08

Bay Ridge Culture = immigration (diff. nationalities, cultures) ; Borough of Churches ; landmarks.

Neyra 4.30.08

k, I made the new page guys, Yellow Fever in Bay Ridge and transferred to it all the things we had in the yellow fever history page. YAY GAMESS!! *cheers*

Victor 04.30.08

I agree, I agree.

We should also add something about the tornado I have pictures!

WE NEED A PICTURE PAGE and I want mini-games.

Neyra 4 29 08

ALRIGHTEY!..so here I am at 10:30 pondering about the aftermath of the BR name change (real estate, more streets built, sewer systems built ec.), and on wut page does that exactly go? see, there is a logical order yellow fever in BR -->name change -->the aforementioned changes. with the pages that we have now, we either put all this info on the "Yellow Fever History" page or the "Bay Ridge HIstory" page. BR History is already filled with other info.. so do you guys wanna make another page addressing the aftermath of the yellow fever in BR, since there is a lot to write abt that? cuz right now, the name change info is on the BR history page, the BR yellow fever info is on the Yellow Fever Hist. page.., so it'd be semi-coherent to make a separate page for the changes..?

edit: ok...I realy think we should change the title: History of Yellow Fever page into "Yellow Fever in Bay Ridge"..I think that way, we can integrate many pieces of info into that one page. history of yellow fever comes off as a rather braod title. do you guys mind?

Christina 4.29.08

  1. Check out the map I added, since I've been working on it all day lol XD. All the pictures work! We just need to put it somewhere, which is easy if you just copy all the coding :)
  2. John has been so kind as to install the citation thing, so check out the main page for it. I already tested it out on the Yellow Fever page, and it looks great. Just make sure to add the code that SHOWS the footnotes (<references/>) at the bottom of the page so you can see them :)
  3. We totally need to have our NAMES somewhere in this wiki lol. Perhaps at the bottom of the home page?

Phil: agreed. Names should be somewhere on the neighborhood pages, with links back to your private pages.

Phil 042908

I'm incredibly proud of what you guys are doing. Even if I did have to hack the image of Barkaloo cemetary.
Christina: hack?! Thats one of the few images we actually took haha XD
Actually, most of them we took on our tours. The only ones that are from google images are the 86th street and the one of the Alpine XD
And thanks, I'm glad you're enjoying all the hard work we've been doing :)!

Phil: You got sumpin 'gainst my pigeon? I love da pigeon! ;)
Christina: That pigeon is the awesome, everyone knows it. In fact, we should total go with that title you suggested, "The Wiki of the Bay Ridge Revolutionary War Pigeon" XD Its *ALMOST* as brilliant as Funowiki!

Christina 4.29.08

What I do when I'm home sick.
It's impossible for me to be totally unproductive, even when I'm semi-conscious, so I did this today. Hope it helps!


Victor 4.28.08

Bay Ridge Real Estate 1930

Christina 4.27.08

Hmm...thats true. I know wikipedia has that there where you can footnote, and they all appear at the bottom of the page. Not sure how to do that, though. Perhaps we could ask John?
We also already have a reference page set up, so maybe we could just use that and link it. *shrugs* I mean, I'd rather have a cleaner look.
Or we could not site at all? XD Thats really mean haha, but we're behind a firewall, after all...*whistles innocently*
I agree, we should resolve this as a group.

Also:
Updates:

  1. The SNL clip is *officially* up on the website! WAHOO! Hopefully it wont be taken off YouTube for copyright reasons since it took me like 8 years to dig for that XD
  2. The pictures of Bay Ridge I took (to finish the book) are up on Facebook as we speak. Victor, I will be putting them on my flash drive and giving them to you tomorrow so you can work with them!
  3. I HAVE A PRETTY PICTURE I TOOK!! That is relevant to this haha. I'll post it here:
Welcome to Bay Ridge!

This is from 95th street, at the crossroads between 4th and 5th ave :)

Christina 4.26.08

haha Yes! Mac has it! XD
AND I NOTICED IT!! IT LOOKS GREAT! Only problem is, we should paraphrase, since it says things like "He chills with his mates"...which none of us would EVER say lmao XD But other than that, its fine :) We gotta find a YouTube clip! otherwise I need to learn to rip only SECTIONS of DVDs....
As for citing...ehhh? I would put at the bottom of each section or something? Maybe? I don't think I'd have a bibliography page though.

Phil 042708

This is a good question and an interesting problem that we should resolve as a group.

If you had the citations as a separate page you'd need to create links between the separate page and the citation numbers, thus cluttering things up and potentially creating a lot more work for yourselves. On the other hand, a separate page would be provide for a clean look.

Neyra 4.26.08

O_O MAC HAS THAT?? COOOOOOOOL!!! lol thank you Christina !! IT LOOKS SOO MUCH BETTER ! <33 ...alritey so i did some SNF work. go check that out. I'm gonna start writing things about the name change (where is that going, again? BR History page?) *dies*

btw we need to cite all the places we got our info from, like a bibliography? should we make a separate page or just cite the sites under the info like..(c/o www.website.com)..? then again it'd look weird having ten sites under each paragraph..= /..separate page?

Christina 4.26.08

EVIL!
haha and yes! I can rant more about it to you on Monday XD I wanna make sure they didnt change anything from when it was at BAM!
No problem, the toolbar was desperately needed lol. I was getting really confused as to all the pages we had floating around!
I'll give you all the ones that are currently on facebook! ^^
And try and get some sleep XD!

Victor 4.25.08-1:54 am HA!

Now you can't blame me for ranting. That would be lovely- all of them! And that's fine, thats why we have the crop tool! And thanks for the tool bar! We really needed it!

Christina 4.25.08-1:24 am o.0

I could rant about it for HOURS lol XD
Very good! And yeah, I completely agree, we need to get that history page done. I think maybe we should each be assigned one or two, and do the main bulk of the work, and then we can all go in and edit each others :)
The pictures are already on Facebook, but I'll put them on my flash drive right now! Do you want all of them?
Thank you, and yes, I noticed that, it was very helpful! I also added a list of all our pages on the top, so we dont have to dig for them anymore. Make sure you post after it and that everyone watches all the pages so we know when edits are made!
So I'll bring the high res files on Monday, but check them out and facebook too to make sure I didnt butcher anything. I nearly died/got arrested taking the pictures of the cemetery lol, and none of them were exact :-/!
*falls asleep at computer

Victor 4.25.08- 12:37 am..

I'm so glad you enjoyed it! We've kind of figured out what needs work- The main bulk of the project now is the history page... We should either divide up the dates and decide who writes what synopsis... ...Or just methodically tick them off one by one. Whatever works best. Also, maybe on Monday, Christina, could you bring in a thumb drive with the high rez pics. I'll shelp my laptop in and start working on the merges. I also made the reference page, and linked all the pages together. It was becoming a drag to keep clicking back all the time, after I'd made edits. ..And I realized we'd have to do that eventaually anyway...


Christina 4.25.08

MACBETH WAS AMAZING!!! <3
I GOT A HAT THAT SAYS "THE SCOTTISH PLAY"!!!! <3<3<3
And I love you guys, and I am posting this for Neyra.
Dear, there is something known as Printscreen (prntscrn on PCs, Mac+Shift+3 on Macs) LMAO XD It takes a picture of ur computer screen! So you dont need to do it with a camera! So I replaced:

Googlemap.jpg

With:
Bayridgecurrent.jpg

:D
Victor and Neyra, thank you so much for the work you did today!!!! ~~<3

Victor EDIT

I'm on it. I'll spruce it up.

And I think Yellow Fever History and Yellow Fever works fine. Since we have little info on the yellow fever epidemic in Bay Ridge... We can broach other epidemics/pandemics. Sound good?

Ney EDIT

guys, the BR intro page, the text under the pic looks too plain = / it doesnt give the sense that's the introoo page, it should stand out more..? so do we want the "yellow fever in BR" page, then.?

Neyra 042504

I like the intro a lot, the thing is Victor, I REALLY do not think we should have a separate page for maps!!!! and if you want to link something do this [[linkname]] actually, i'll go do it right now. but u can use this for future reference: so.. Bay Ridge Demographics, History of Bay Ridge, Yellow Fever etc.

OK GUYS i created Bay Ridge Culture and History of Yellow Fever that appear on the BR intro page.

and Victor I put up the links on the BR intro page..except maybe, kinda, sorta, cut out the Bay Ridge Maps part? XD!.ty.
Christina: Is the "History of Yellow Fever" about the HISTORY of the disease? Because if we're mostly talking about the epidemic of 1851-1853, I would call it "Yellow Fever in Bay Ridge" or "The Yellow Fever Epidemic of the 1850s" or something?

Christina 4.24.08

1. I don't like the green for "then and now" lol XD But it looks good!
2. Not sure about everything being centered, either...
3. Those aren't demographics, some history is in their. If you want it take the interesting parts and delete the rest or something! They dont belong on the home page
4. ABOUT my demographics page. ITS ALLL scrapwork right now. Everything below the last chart is just notes for when I'm coding, so I have the #s right in front of me. They wont be there when its done./ They're nauseatingly BAD! and UGLY! Don't worry, that will be decent eventually.
5. History page? umm, sure! Whatever works! I trust you!
6. You can add pictures, but I think most of that info is relevant. *shrugs* I'll trim it down a bit just to see what you think!

Victor 42408

I just added what I wrote to the Bay Ridge Intro Page. Change anything around if you want. I need to add links in, if anyone can help me with that?

Ps. Christina, can I convert some of your demographics into charts? The ones with %s? Just to conserve space? and there was something else I wanted to do... Oh yeah! Can I alter the history page so we have the info under the years, so it goes in order?

Yellow Fever, i'll cut it down and add pretty pictures if you'd like??

Christina 4.24.08

Okay, I cant see straight right now lol. Coding tables is *on the verge of tears* very, VERY annoying. I think I finally got the hang of it, after 3 hours and the Sweeney Todd soundtrack on repeat.....
ANYWAY! I'm sorry of the yellow fever stuff seems too long :( *WAS TRYING TO HELP* If you want to cut some of that out, feel free too?
I like Yellow Fever in Bay Ridge as its own page...maybe? It could also work on the general yellow fever page? But I think there's so much about it it should have its own page? Maybe?
I will look at the pictures...NOW!! *dashes off into the sunset*!
*whistles A Little Priest*

Ney: nuu Christina I wasn't talking about the yellow fever stuff, leave the info, it's really good *worshipswikipedia* lol XD..i was just saying it mite be too much to put yellow fever med stuff, its spread in U.S, NY, BR.all on one page. So yeah how about a separate Yellow Fever in Bay Ridge page? since we all agree on it?

and yes loveee I saw your demographic tables..they look very chic *highfives* !! lol *SIGH*...10 hours of wiki work.

Victor 042408

FYI, there are about 4 albums on facebook that I've posted so far With past/present bay ridge next to one another. We still need some more shots though- we're actually missing quite a lot. And I don't know which all of the pair up with. One of you might remember- can you comment them and let me know?

And I agree with Neyra, maybe we need two? Or maybe mix the yellow fever in with the Bay Ridge History?

Have we made all the pages layout?

1. Into 2. Bay Ridge History 3. Demographics 4. Maps 5. Yellow Fever 6. Historical Text/Historical Fiction? (7. Yellow Fever IN BAY RIDGE?)

Ney EDIT

ok looking at the Yellow Fever page, it looks as though it's going to be very extensive; so maybe we should make a separate page for the Yellow Fever Epidemic? I'm afraid that if we include all the epidemic info on the yellow fever page it's going to be one of those pages u scroll, scroll, scroll, and never get to the end of lol, and we want to make it as clear and coherent as possible. kk, tell me what you guys think =)

Neyra 042408

You're welcomeeee, love !! :) Glad the article could help you. If you look on the Bay Ridge History site I wrote a bit about the R train which directly has to do with the BR demographics, so if you want to include it on the demo page you're more than welcome to. Just remove it from the BR Hist page then so it won't be redundant :D

just for the record, the bullets work for me on the demo page, so if it takes a long time to make a table you totally shouldn't. It's organized and coherent this way also.

Christina 4.24.08

Neyra, I could MARRY you right now! I can't believe all the work you did on the wiki! It looks fantastic!! *giant hugs* and thank you soooo much for that article, I will try to include it and the info in my demographics page! Which I am totally going to make tables, since the bullets right now are not that coherent. I also wanna add some paragraphs, so I can talk about how and why these changes occured, relating it to Yellow Fever and the subways and everything!!! :)
Thank you soooooo much again!!!! *HUGS*!

Neyra 042408

Christina this has some more demographic info if you need: http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9C03E4D81F3EE233A25750C2A9649C946997D6CF

:)

Christina 4.24.08: More Train Info

Samuel McElroy, superintendent of the street survey, said:
“Through this whole area there is not direct steam railway communication with New York; no way in which, with regularity, frequency, comfort and speed, a business man can be carried to and from the city, as he can be carried in any other direction; and in consequence of this an acre of building lots in the rocks or swamps or Harlem, six or seven miles from the Battery, is worth twenty-five times as much to-day as an acre in Kings County no further away!”
→ie, the crappy land in Manhattan was worth a LOT more than the nice land in Bay Ridge because Bay Ridge was inaccessible. Thus, build a RAILROAD!
Also, the biggest problem: “the supreme selfishness of every property owner in Brooklyn.”
Many old-world Dutch farmers didn't want/allow people to build railroads through their farmland. In fact, it says that the Rural Gazette was pushing for a railroad for a while, and it was the farmers who were inhibiting it. Population booms also coincide with railroad building, which makes obvious sense :)

--Christina 11:12, 24 April 2008 (EDT)

Newly Added Pages

Please add the newly added pages here, and MAKE SURE YOU WATCH THEM!
Bay Ridge
Yellow Fever
Bay Ridge Demographics
History of Bay Ridge
Bay Ridge Culture
History of Yellow Fever
[[[Bay Ridge Reference]]]
Any more? Please add them! Thank you!

--Christina 00:34, 24 April 2008 (EDT)

...btw its 1:16AM...o.0

Christina 4.23.08

YAY!! We're glad you're back!!
Also, some more info on the steam railraods that helped make Bay Ridge...Bay Ridge!
1875: Talking about the steam railroad into Flatbush and Gravesend, the Rural Gazette “congratulate[d] the Gravesenders that they will now be able to consider themselves as somebody and not as a peculiar people five miles from anywhere, bound to lock their doors at sundown and go to bed because they cannot reach civilization and return on the same day.”
July 1, 1878: The Brooklyn, Flatbush, and Coney Island Railway created, it consolidated the "Coney Island and East River Railway" and the "Flatbush, Coney Island, Park and Concorse Railway"
-this book also mentions that one of the "selling points" of the Brooklyn Bridge was to send produce from Brooklyn into the city!
Bay Ridge Steam Railroad: 1875

Neyra

WELCOME BACK PROFESSOR NAPOLI ! ..we were starting to worry because you've been MIA for dayss. Hope everything's okay!!

Phil 042308

You guys rock.


Christina 4.23.08

Awesome work, Ney! As for the articles, below I posted 2 real estate ads, one from the 1930s and one from 2007. But the 1886 one would be a LOT better! Which will be awesome! :)
Also, today is Shakespeare's birthday, if you didn't know, so you BEST be celebrating it! To celebrate, you should all post in old English. Or maybe not. XD

Also, I posted my preliminary stuff on the Bay Ridge page last night. Perhaps we should be posting it there? And we should all be WATCHING that page!!
--Christina 19:04, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
Update:
From "The Future of Bay Ridge"
Okay, this is NOT working, just check out the 4th paragraph that talks about change!!
Bay Ridge Demographics
Yellow Fever


Yellow Fever Epidemic Info: 1852 Nationwide: Yellow Fever (New Orleans: 8,000 die in summer) 1853 New Orleans: yellow fever killed 7,790.

Hence why the name HAD to be changed!
I will see what I can find about NY!

Neyra

good real estate articles from 1886 and 1897 (show prices):

Neyra EDIT (yet again, I love you wikii!!)

Just a preliminary draft; a work in progress:


Looking at the historical maps of Bay Ridge from the mid- to late 1800’s, it’s amazing to see the changes that have taken places to give way to the contemporary map of the area. Primarily, one notices a dashed line passing through Fort Hamilton on the 1890’s map, signifying a railroad termed “Bay Ridge and Lake Shore Railroad” of which there’s no sign off today. In truth, the railroad was never built; it was merely proposed but never was constructed due to the amount of land work and deep excavations that it required. Second, Third and Fourth Avenues, Stewart Avenue, 60th street, show up as early as the 1800’s maps and still exist today. The greater difference is that many of the street and avenue names have been changed to numbered ones. The number of streets has also increased, particularly during the years of improvement that followed yellow fever and the name change in 1853. The widely used Bay Ridge Ferry, which ran from the pier at the foot of 69th street no longer shows up in today’s maps – it was shut down one day after the Verrazano-Narrows opened in 1964. Belt Parkway (1930), Leif Ericson Drive (a.k.a Shore Parkway), and Gowanus Expressway (1954) further helped transform Bay Ridge as depicted on today’s map..........

Neyra EDIT

guys I found a REALLY good 1873 article that sums up yellow fever, real estate, changes in BR:

August 14, 1873

http://eagle.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Skin=BE&Source=MyColl&ViewMode=GIF&AppName=2&BaseHref=BEG/1873/08/14&EntityId=Ar00301


  • it talks about how there were many ponds in BR (if you look at the old photos you can still see them) but after the epidemic there was a commission to drain them out to prevent more epidemics and replaced with sewer systems to attract people and increase the value of real estate.
  • creation of new avenues and streets / many trees planted to shade them
  • Bay Ridge Avenue was once known as Bennet's Lane o.O
  • many new estates built. There was even a railroad that was supposed to be built that shows up on one of the posted maps.
  • 1873: $4000/ acre


Neyra EDIT

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9C04E6D81339E134BC4850DFBE66838D649FDE&oref=slogin


Neyra 04 23 08

that's soooo awesomeee !! ackk too bad it won't be done on time, I wish we thought of this earlier = / BUT it's still cool!

Bay Ridge was once a resort place; remember reading that

there is only ONE Bay Ridge right? lol because the poster says Baltimore, MD and I'm thinking it's an agent in MD that's promoting the BR resort.....*sigh*

http://www.bayridge.org/

lol XD

hahahaha..NEVERMIND THEN!!

Christina 4.23.08

Brooklyn Census for Mid-Late 1800s as Compared to 1990

Christina 4.23.08 Very Cool!

So, as I mentioned to Neyra, there are a bunch of guys who run around Bay Ridge making fun of it (i posted it down somehwere) and I was thinking of using some of their stuff for an opening, since I don't think its possible to rip just a SECTION of a dvd :( and I dont wanna put the whole SNF up! I will try, though.
But anyway, it was really late last night and I was like, "HEY! Why don't I email those guys who make fun of Bay Ridge and ask them to do a Yellow Fever special?" And well, I got the response this morning!!

Dear Christina, Thats actually an awesome idea! We have a big nightlife piece in the works next, but thats very interesting. Thanks for being a fan! Either people are loving it, or absolutely despising it. Your film sounds cool. Is it mainly touching on the Yellow Hook history or does it go further? How will you incorporate the Bay Rizz? It sounds cool. I'm all about films, projects and ideas,especially Bay Ridge, as we all went to SVA and we need the madness to continue! -Mayor Bay Rizz

....and yeah, I said "project," but they're film students assume its a film lmao XD Still, pretty cool! I doubt it will be done in time, but they're considering! Which is kinda awesome, right? WE HAVE SOME INFLUENCE OVER THE MINDS OF...well...I think they;re older than us, actually....WHO CARES!
Still awesome lol.

Christina 4.23.08: 12:28PM XD

SOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aside from my numerous updates in Neyra's post below (CHECK THEM, there is valuable info, especially that link!), I have also come across something (the joys of google images) interesting!
Bay Ridge Real Estate, 2007
Now, how great is this? It can totally contrast the picture Victor scanned, of the selling prices of houses back in the 1900s. And, its from an article in the NY Post, so we know its at least *slightly* reputable! YAY! Maybe?
Update: To contrast the above picture, another house on Ridge Rvld, back in the 1930s:
Bay Ridge Real Estate, 1930s
Victor, if you can get a higher resolution of this picture on the wiki, it would be most appreciated!

Also, for a better comparison, that house was going for $25,000 in the 1930s. I plugged in 1935, and that is equivalent to $377,534.60 in 2007. Which means the market has SKYROCKETED in Bay Ridge since then!

I also found some interesting pictures of trains from the 1930s that ran though Bay Ridge:
http://sbiii.com/d-keller/dklipix/b-3-33~1.jpg
The home page of this guy can be found here:
http://sbiii.com/d-keller/d-keller.html

The wonders of the internets!
--Christina 12:08, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

Neyra 042308 1:10 AM and still going strong!!

Christina do you by any chance know from what years the BR maps that you added, are from? (if you don't remember, look below at my post from 041108..they're the two maps b4 the last one). Ty!
Christina: no idea, but I'll try to find out. btw the top one is of Manhattan anyway XD
UPDATE: Manhattan Map is for Yellow Fever during 1791-1799!
UPDATE#2: Well, I can't seem to find that map again, but if you do a google images search (what I've been doing o.0) and put in the right words, you should get *something* at least. Meanwhile, here's a picture of NY harbor from 1861! http://www.sonofthesouth.net/leefoundation/civil-war/1861/september/fort-layafette.jpg
OOOOoooOOOOOoooOOO its a Fort! Fort Lafayette! Like the guy the exhibit was on yesterday. Anyway, I assume we took some pictures of the harbor, so Victor, this is for you: If you want to use this picture with a modern one, you totally can!
So yeah, I'll go back to google map seaching. Otherwise assume late 1800s. It says Bay Ridge, so its after 1853, and it still looks old. For some reason I'm thinking 1880s, but I am pretty much sure it is NOT 1900s-on!

Christina...at 12:51AM on 4.(now 23).08

Here's the link to the article about the guys who spoof Bay Ridge: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/brooklyn/2008/04/15/2008-04-15_young_filmmakers_making_bay_ridge_glorio.html
I havent watched their videos yet....I hope they;re funny. But because its 12:50 and I lack inhibitions I actually emailed them "suggesting" they do an episode on Yellow Fever lmao XD
Time for bed, my mother is shrieking at me.....!!!

Neyra 042308

Wow we've been so caught up in documents and data from the 1800s/1900s that I completely forgot to put up a current map of Bay Ridge. Oy.


YAY IT'S 12:13 AM! ..nothing like wiki-ing after midnight!! XD!

Christina: ;D
....This doesn't give you permission to stalk me.

Neyra EDIT 042208

Map from "Bay Ridge Chronicles" (ty to Victor for scanning it !! XD! )

Bay Ride in 1873


Neyra EDIT

After that [name change], the neighborhood became a retreat for New York's elite, who built a string of homes along Shore Road. Once the subway was extended south to Bay Ridge in the 1910's, a new group of immigrants moved into the neighborhood, spawning a wave of construction and bringing a new way of life. Not long after, Bay Ridge became synonymous with working-class Brooklyn, with the opening of the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge in 1964 and the filming of "Saturday Night Fever" with John Travolta.

well here are some of the Shore Road mansions:

One of the mansions on Shore Road
And another..
Mansion #3
Mansion #4
Mansion #5
Magnificent Tudor, Harborview Terrace and 82nd Street

http://www.forgotten-ny.com/SLICES/shore.road/shore.road.html

Neyra 042208

Real Estate booms in Bay Ridge:

http://eagle.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=QkVHLzE5MDIvMDQvMTkjQXIwMTEwNA==&Mode=Gif&Locale=english-skin-custom

http://eagle.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=QkVHLzE5MDEvMDkvMjgjQXIwMTUxMg==&Mode=Gif&Locale=english-skin-custom

http://eagle.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=QkVHLzE5MDEvMTEvMTYjQXIwMTcwMg==&Mode=Gif&Locale=english-skin-custom

http://eagle.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=QkVHLzE5MDAvMDEvMTQjQXIwMjUwMA==&Mode=Gif&Locale=english-skin-custom

I'd post the actual articles but for some reason they wouldn't save right and I couldn't upload them onto the wiki = /

Christina 4.22.08 NY Historical Society

So I went to the NY Historical Society today, kinda a spur of the moment thing, to look at the cholera exhibit.
Biggest.Waste.Of.Time.EVER.
The "exhibit" was ONE WALL, on the 4th floor, in the "this is where we store the paintings that aren't on display" section. There was no information, and everything they showed I could have gotten online. Their idea of "how epidemics changed NY" seemed to encompass nothing more than a sentence on filling up the Collect Pond. So yeah, it was pointless and I spent 5 minutes there and then went to look at the other actual exhibits, including the 2-floor one on Lafayette.

ANYWAY, I will probably post some of the pictures on facebook, but there really wasn't anything that valuable. *shrugs*

American Idol is on so I'll post more later XD

Update: I posted the stuff on facebook, check it out if you want, its really unhelpful, though XD. Also, I visited the Reading Room at NYHS today, and the nice librarian was trying to help me out. I looked through a few documents, none of which were very helpful, most talked about Yellow Fever in Manhattan up to 1822, waayy too early for us. However, you CAN do a full search of documents through Bobcat, which is something Brooklyn College totally uses (yay for paying attention during that library lesson we did for English 2!) and you can search through that, if you want. I already found one book I want to get from BHS when we go, and I took down the call number so we can get it when we go there.
But even the librarian said, yeah, BHS should have a lot more information on Brooklyn than they do!

Christina 4.21.08

From the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, December 19, 1853:

Brooklyn Daily Eagle: Dec 19, 1853

Link: http://eagle.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=QkVHLzE4NTMvMTIvMTkjQXIwMDIwOA==&Mode=Gif&Locale=english-skin-custom

Christina 4.20.08

Technically, 4.21.08, but I havent gone to sleep yet so it still counts as the 20th XD

Here are some Lui clips I cut and will care more about tomorrow!


Lui Masu and the Revolutionary War Cemetary

Lui Masu: Moving to Bay Ridge b/c of Williamsburg Bridge

Many Immigrants didn't travel to work

The Freedom Tree right by FHHS on Shore Road

Lui Masu on the 9/11 Memorial at the Pier

*falls asleep at computer*

Christina 4.20.08

More random Bay Ridge info from Of Cabbages and Kings County, my favorite book ever.
p.146: -railroad in 1870s ran from Bay Ridge to Queens and Suffolk. 1874, the Royal Gazette declared that this would "greatly benefit...the interests of property" by "Facilitating the increase of population from the surplus of New York."
p.228-9: Bay Ridge Park Improvement Company (Nov 1890), led to a boom in property. Single lots in Bay Ridge sold for as much as $745, half the price farmers received for a WHOLE ACRE two years earlier. By March 1891: the NY Times reported that a corner lot in Bay Ridge had "run up to $1,800"

Christina 4.20.08

Also, some helpful R Train info: (courtesy of wikipedia XD)

The line that later became the R was the BMT 2. When it entered service on January 15, 1916, it ran between Chambers Street on the BMT Nassau Street Line and 86th Street, using the Manhattan Bridge to cross the East River. Service on the BMT Broadway Line (which was only between Whitehall Street and Times Square) began exactly two years later. The Montague Street Tunnel opened on October 1, 1920, and at that time it took its current shape, running local from Queensboro Plaza to 86th Street. Bay Ridge–95th Street station opened on October 31, 1925.

This info is backed up by that "Bay Ridge and Fort Hamilton: A Photographic Journey" book, page 89. The 4th avenue and 77th street station was opened in 1916, and it says it was the "BMT" subway entrance, which I assume means Brooklyn/Manhattan Transit? Maybe? Anyway...

Look how this info relates to the maps, especially the decrease in farm land! The R train went up to 86th street in Brooklyn in 1916, when the population began to increase much more dramatically. Table 1A shows the farmland, and the difference between 1899 (360 farms) to 1919 (54 farms) is insane! This correlation fits with the brand-new subway system, especially with how dramatically it kept falling after!

Table 9 was fascinating to see how many blacks moved to Kings County and Flatbush, perhaps even showing while Flatbush is like that today.
Table10 Just kinda cool for demographic information
Table 17 Where have all the farmers gone? I can't believe how many were there before!
Table 18 Pop increase, even before the subway line. Which explains a) the decrease in farms and b) the reason they actually BUILT the subway XD
Table 19 The transition from a farmland to a city!
Table 20 I really want get the modern statistic, since its probably astronomical compared to these tax figures!
Table 21 From 1865-1870 it went from 1,347.5 to 384 o.o!

Christina 4.20.08

Tables, Tables, Tables

Testing this instead:

Farms in Kings County, 1820-1992
Farms in Kings County, cont.
Slave and Black Population

Farm Laborers in Rural Kings County, 1860, '70, and '80
Acres of Improved Farmland, 1845
Population of Kings County
Manufacturing in Brooklyn, 1880 and 1890

Assessed Valuation of Property, 1880 and 1890
Total Farm Acreage in Kings County, 1820-80

Also, we're thinking of doing the NY Historical Society the first weekend in May, is that okay for you? And for everyone here?


Christina 4.19.08

Hey, I will go whenever. I'm sure it will be a really interesting and fun exhibit to look at. Victor will be away this week, but I'll ask Neyra if she maybe wants to come. Otherwise I'll just go! When's the historical society open, anyway? For some reason I seem to think its closed Mondays.

But I think it would be fascinating! And there would probably be a lot of information we can get out of it!

Christina 4.18.08

YAY NY Times!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/15/science/15chol.html?_r=1&scp=3&sq=cholera&st=nyt&oref=slogin

I know its about Cholera, but its still an awesome article. Also, there's an exhibit at the NY Historical Society on how Cholera shaped Manhattan. Its not exactly what we need, but there will be a lot of parallels. Perhaps we should check it out?

Tell me what you guys think!


Phil (041808) I'd love to go with you. Just tell me when you are thinking about visiting.

Phil 041408

Great! I hope it has lots of info for you.

It is, however, the dullest book I have ever read. :)


Christina 4.14.08

I somehow managed to get myself a copy of "Of Cabbages and Kings County: Agriculture and the Formation of Modern Brooklyn," by Marc Linder & Lawrence S. Zacharias. Its not exactly the most interesting thing I've ever read, but it DOES mention Yellow Hook! YAYAYAY!!
So I will be researching this and seeing how it goes, since it talks about the transition from a farm economy to what BR is today!
*boogies*

Neyra 04.12.08

a) the opening icon is fabulous!! I love it! b) I resized the map that showed up black so now it's..not black. XD

Victor 04.12.08

Opening Icon?

Bay Ridge Wiki Icon

Christina: You tell me: Bay Ridge
 :-)

Victor 04.12.08

Neyra

Old photos of Bay Ridge: http://brooklynpix.com/catalog15bk.php?locality_no=10201 http://brooklynpix.com/catalog15bk.php?locality_no=10202

Shore Road


Neyra EDIT

This 1890s-era map of Bay Ridge shows that Stewart Avenue was once a main artery, following the present course of Fifth Avenue. Note the Gelston property on the left: Gelston Avenue, then as now, is named for its owner. Fourth Avenue branches off at the top of the map, as it does today. The green area at the right of the map is Fort Hamilton. Note the proposed Bay Ridge and Lake Shore Railroad at the center of the map, that was never built.

Bay Ride in 1890s

http://www.forgotten-ny.com/Alleys/Road%20remnants/roads.html

Neyra 041108

Okay so it's pretty hard to find historical maps exactly of Bay Ridge, so for now I just found New York ones. Although, there are are two more maps that we photographed on our walking tour and there are the two that Christina found which are perfect because they're actually of Bay Ridge.

1842: 30 mile radius

New York in 1846

New York in 1849

New York in 1838

New York in 1778

I'm just going to add the two previous maps that Christina posted and one that Prof. Napoli added, to keep all the maps together:

Map of where Yellow Fever hit

map of bay ridge

Bay ridge NYPL.jpg


Christina 4.10.08 VERY IMPORTANT

In light of the fact that this is due in like...2 weeks....I have created the 'OFFICIAL BAY RIDGE PAGE!!!! *steamers and banners and balloons* Ahem, yes, so anyway, anything FINAL, but it here: Bay Ridge
This means any introductions, coherent info on specific things, tables, YouTube videos, etc, should go there. Any questions, comments, or not finalized/preliminary facts should still go here.
Merci bcp mes amis!


Christina 4.8.08

Cutting audio clips from our walk, trying to get some important info. Here's a test one which we can totally use on our wiki!


Lui Masu: "Bay Ridge is a New Neighborhood" This clip is really significant since it talks about how Bay Ridge is relatively new, city-wise, because of the SUBWAYS. I've seen some pictures (especially in that new book we got today, Neyra, do you still have it?) that has pictures of the subway as it was being built, and discusses how it extended to 92nd street in the 1930s or something. I don't remember the exact date, but before than, Bay Ridge was mostly farmland, and this quote also talks about that! So when we talk about the subways (or show pictures) we can totally use this clip! In fact, we should probably get a picture of the 77th st stop on the R line, since I think theres a picture of it in the other Bay Ridge book! --> also, for some reason it doesn't say the name of the clip when you go to play it, just some random characters. Anyone know how to fix that?

Victor 4.7.08

Things to touch on in Bay Ridge overview… which will be supported by the photos.
Churches in Bay Ridge…Borough of Churches. They’re documented and you can see a change over time.
Military in Bay Ridge…Army Base, countless monuments. Also documented a good deal.
Culture in Bay Ridge…Take a look at these photos, you can see such a distinct change over time of the people. Even if unintentional, these were documented.

I’ll post a list of places we have to visit.
This book is great. Ridge and Hamilton.
It has the LOCATION of the photos, which is crucial.
We should form a list, in a manner in which we can walk around and hit all of them in the shortest amount of time.
Wiki Wiki, out.

Great ideas! We totally need to do another faux walking tour for it and take the pictures of the old places to show how they've changed!

Christina 4.7.08 Testing Google Maps


Victor 04.07.08

Bold by Christina
Bay Ridge (Images of America) would be perfect for the media idea I have. I can do the work on photoshop, once we're set up with the images. We need photographs of old Bay Ridge, so we can find the same spots and document them now. “Brooklyn’s Bay Ridge and Fort Hamilton” already has a few good shots, such as the “Green Church” and the “Alpine Theater” which we passed on our tour. We should go on a tour again just to take picture of these landmarks, asap. What are you all free? Maybe this Thursday, after 1:00?
Neyra gets out 1:30. But this Thur before 7:30 is good for me
Also, those words hidden under that sign towards the end of the tour- I’m interested in that.

And these demographics are great, if we can find the previous data, we can make some sort of media clip, like the old-new photo transition.

In addition, if we are going to do some sort of creative writing piece, we need some sort of transcript dating to the epidemic.

And why did they call it Yellow Hook? ...Food for thought.
They (the Dutch) called it Yellow Hook because the soil was yellow. Just like they called it Red Hook because the soil there was reddish!

And why do Macs say “Control” while PCs say “Ctrl” ? ...More food for thought.
Because Macs are pretentious :D

Ps. The photos from the tour came out great. They'll be up tonight..I hope.
I'll put some up, too....!

Phil (040608)

Yes, a Chaplain is a religious leader in the military, be he or she can be of any denomination, not necessarily Catholic.

The why is central.

Why Sheridan? Why not him or some other grunt?

Why that other guy, looking at God?

Why Easter Sunday?

Why take territory and leave it?

Why had he, raised on the Baltimore Catechism, been turned into a killer?

Why was he in Vietnam?

Why didn't he care enough?

Why couldn't he save Sheridan?

Why was this Chaplain praising them for killing dying?

Why?

Kenny grew up in Bay Ridge, and fairly certain that Sheridan did too. And the monument is there of course.

I did not edit that excerpt at all.

This is what PTSD looks like. He has carried that "why?" for 40 years this past Easter.



Christina 4.5.08 Maps

Please watch this page guys, so that you know what and when stuff is added!

Here are some maps:

Map of US in 1854

1. Basically during the same time Bay Ridge became Bay Ridge! This is PRE-Civil War! Which is kinda cool!

Map of Brooklyn

and...The Complete 1850 US Census!

....which will not let me upload it. Its a pdf file which is apparently not compatible. If you want the pdf I could email it to you guys? Who wants it, let me know!

I'm gonna go back to watching the Star Wars Marathon on tv haha XD And I'll be bringing the books tomorrow!!

Christina 4.5.08

But yeah....we should include that picture of the memorial and a snippet of the audio in our wiki. I mean...it kinda has to do with Bay Ridge, right?

....right?

Christina 4.5.08

Wow...
The Chaplain...a Chaplain is like a priest right? For the military? (I'm going by my recollection of Catch-22 o.o).
But see, that is just so...true. Like, in every war story you read and hear, theres always going to be that part of it. That why.
Ironic it was in April. "April is the cruelest month" after all.
I always think of that Carl Sandburg quote, from back in like...WWI or something. When he said "Sometime they'll give a war and nobody will come."

I don't know if it was your editing or the way he said it, but that last line is pretty amazing.

If only politicians would learn to listen, huh?

Phil (040508)

Neil Kenny describes the death of Philip L. Sheridan. We saw Sheridan's name on the memorial in Cannonball Park (John Paul Jones Park) yesterday.

Neil Kenny is a 59 year old retired NYC public high school teacher. His last job was at Ft. Hamilton High School. He retired in 1995. He'd be more than happy to talk with you about Sheridan.

The incident described below took place Easter Sunday, 1968.

This transcript and the audio are taken from an oral history I conducted with him in 2005. This passage, or one similar to it, is used in my exhibition "In Our Own Words" at the Brooklyn Historical Society.

We ought to try to interpret the meaning of this passage.

I'll try to post the audio later.


And then we were standing there and everybody is looking and nothing is going on right now. And I think 1st or 2nd Platoon and the CP group had come up because 3rd Platoon was in, we were here, 2nd Platoon and they come up and they got on line and they were moving through and we were going to give the overhead coverage. And I was sitting there and I said, “Now if I was a gook, where would I be?” You know and I started like a kid, analyzing like where would I be, where would you know, where would you hide, and I said, “I’d be right behind them fucking logs.” And I could see these logs, like trees down--like logs--fit into the scenery and whatever and all you could see was the trees. And then these guys started running up the hill in front of us and there was a guy... and I don’t know who this kid was and he was running up and he was going like this [Gestures] and he was like this [Gesture] and right--right--right like... like he was like here and all the sudden this guy popped up and he had the... [Waft] and he hit him and the guy like--did like three cartwheels. I mean I never saw--I said, “Oh man, see the mother fucker.” It was like your reaction was not--not normal. And he did like [Thump, Thump, Thump] three cartwheels. He came down a lump and I said, “That’s where they are,” and then we started firing the machine gun--what Ronnie had and they were firing right at the hole. So the gooks went down and then some guys came up and they threw grenades and they--they wiped them out. And then they moved up and then we moved up and then we got up to where this guy was and they got a Corpsman and they propped him up against a tree, you know. And he was sitting there and he was fucked up. I mean he got hit--probably about six bullets went through his armpit and like, you know one came out his side, one came out like his groin; they just go all--where they come out. And he was laying there and--and I just looked at him and he had this--it’s like these Hollywood moments, if you will. Well he had this look about him like--he was just like looking, wherever he was looking, but he was like--there was nothing or no one or no thing, there was nothing; he was just looking like--just looking. He was looking through everything like everything was like clear from his eyes, almost like he was looking into this light, like the white light if you will. He was just somewhere else. He was--you know and I was looking at him and the Corpsman was saying, “Stay with me, stay with me,” you know and there’s all this conversation. And they’re going, “Come on, come on, come on.” And it’s--and it was just like there was this quiet--in my mind there was this quiet--in the chaos there was the quietness of that moment and he just looked like--I think he was looking at God. You know what I mean, I think he was looking to wherever he was and he died. I just watched him die right there. And it was like--I said, “This is fucked up.” So I said, “Well let’s go.” You know it was still the game; it was him. And--and I always said, “You know better him than me.” And I think that people really--that really understand that--it is better you than me because you do want to live. That’s--it sucks, but it does. I don’t have a lot of survivor guilt about that, but that’s the reality. And then what happened is we got up to the next position where the 2nd Platoon was and we held in and we held that ridge line, and then the CP group was coming back up behind the thing. And I looked over and I said, “What the fuck...” I saw Phil [Sheridan] and I said, “What the fuck is he doing there? What is he doing up there?” And he had run ahead of the CP group and he was an FO. So I guess he thought he was going to be John Wayne; he was going to call in the Artillery. And he was running up the fucking hill and he had a pair of binoculars around his neck and he had a 45 in his hand. And you know if you’re the bad guy, I mean even if I’m the good guy, I’m going to give the other guy--that guy some of this target--it’s a prime target. And it was just weird because he--I just looked at him and I said, “What the fuck is he doing there,” like he shouldn’t have been where he was. It should have been me or some other grunt. It shouldn’t--he shouldn’t have been there; that was not his role. You know what I’m saying? I understood that. And he ran and then all of the sudden, it was the weirdest thing; it was like his feet--his heel--he kind of like went like this [Gestures] like up on his--he was going... you’ve got to picture; you’re running up hill. So he’s leaning forward and all the sudden you see him going like this--like this--almost like he was trying to bend over on his heels like to touch his thing and that’s when he got hit. He got hit in here in the chest somewhere and he went over that way and then all of the sudden he just violently went back, and I think he took a shot in the head. And he hit--and before he hit the ground I just looked and I said, “[Sheridan] is dead.” I mean I just knew he was dead. I mean I did--and I didn’t go over to his body. You know there was no way I was going to get over to his body. And that always bothered me. And then we came back... you know then I watched the other companies run over the top of the hill. They had the gooks on the run. They were fucking whacking them; they were doing a number on them. The gooks didn’t expect this. It was like, they found rice cooking. These mother fuckers did not expect a Regiment coming up that fucking hill at that hour of the morning. We were just there--it was the great Easter egg hunt. It was April 14, 1968; I’ll never forget it. And we came back--we came back off the hill and again it was like, “Well we took that hill and now we’re leaving it.” You know that was always a frustration that was always there. Why’d we take the hill if we’re leaving it you know? And we came back to the thing and the first guy at the gate, when we came in through the gate was the Chaplain and he was standing there on these sandbags and he goes, “Oh, we got--they filmed it all and you guys were incredible going....” And he was trying to like--I realize now he was trying to be encouraging and give words of comfort or something. And I looked at the guy and I was like, “Why, you know? Why?” And he didn’t have an answer for me. I asked him that. I said, “Why, you know? Why?” And he didn’t have an answer for me and I left my religion on that hill. I have never gone back to it.

Phil 040408

Totally happy to help.

Thrilled about the maps!

Remember what I said over pizza. I mean every word.

Your success is the most important thing.

I sent you the audio a bit eariier tonight. Check your email. Some sounds good and some does not, depending on the wind!

Christina 4.5.08

MORE CENSUS INFO!

It only goes to 1990, and I can only cover the entire Brooklyn, but here's some useful info:

Media:Demographics.xls
weee my table works!! * is proud * I made it myself haha XD
If you want all the info, you can check out this document, which has all of NY State: Media:NYtab.xls
Also, if for some reason you can't read MS Excel Files....well....get Excel XD. Seriously though I could try to figure out how to convert it into a PDF if thats easier :D!

Also
A special thank you to Prof Napoli for today!!!!!! You were way too generous, really. Thanks so much for everything :)
And the books are AMAZING. I am looking through the "Brooklyn's Bay Ridge and Fort Hamilton" one, that was sealed and $30, and its amazing!! Remember that map of Fort Hamilton we saw today? Well, its in there! And much more! Even though most of it is after Bay Ridge changed its name, there are some awesome pictures of what Bay Ridge used to look like, so we can get a good idea of just how farm land-y it really was! There are also other useful maps, which we should probably scan and turn into PDFs or something. I can convert them into image files on photoshop when I get my scanner working * kicks it * ya....
But thanks so much for everything, and that book especially. Its really, REALLY helpful!! And really cool to just look at.
Of course, this means we need to go on another walking tour to take AFTER pictures for these amazing Before ones! These pictures, along with the demographic information, will really help show the changes in Bay Ridge!!

Christina 4.5.08

Preliminary Census Info for Bay Ridge, 2000
SECOND # is PERCENTAGE

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/QTTable?_bm=y&-geo_id=86000US11209&-qr_name=DEC_2000_SF1_U_DP1&-ds_name=DEC_2000_SF1_U&-_lang=en&-_sse=on

  • Total population 69,840 100
  • SEX AND AGE
    • Male 33,435 47.9
    • Female 36,405 52.1

    • Under 5 years 3,944 5.6
    • 5 to 9 years 3,719 5.3
    • 10 to 14 years 3,273 4.7
    • 15 to 19 years 3,136 4.5
    • 20 to 24 years 3,956 5.7
    • 25 to 34 years 13,000 18.6
    • 35 to 44 years 11,669 16.7
    • 45 to 54 years 9,432 13.5
    • 55 to 59 years 3,439 4.9
    • 60 to 64 years 2,979 4.3
    • 65 to 74 years 5,568 8
    • 75 to 84 years 4,061 5.8
    • 85 years and over 1,664 2.4

    • Median age (years) 38 (X)
    • 18 years and over 57,010 81.6
    • Male 26,806 38.4
    • Female 30,204 43.2
    • 21 years and over 55,121 78.9
    • 62 years and over 13,026 18.7
    • 65 years and over 11,293 16.2
    • Male 4,143 5.9
    • Female 7,150 10.2



    • RACE
    • One race 65,886 94.3
    • White 54,606 78.2
    • Black or African American 1,150 1.6
    • American Indian and Alaska Native 169 0.2
    • Asian 7,024 10.1
    • Asian Indian 833 1.2
    • Chinese 3,784 5.4
    • Filipino 430 0.6
    • Japanese 85 0.1
    • Korean 874 1.3
    • Vietnamese 86 0.1
    • Other Asian 1 932 1.3
    • Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 38 0.1
    • Native Hawaiian 13 0
    • Guamanian or Chamorro 2 0
    • Samoan 10 0
    • Other Pacific Islander 2 13 0
    • Some other race 2,899 4.2
    • Two or more races 3,954 5.7



    • Race alone or in combination with one or more other races 3
    • White 58,175 83.3
    • Black or African American 1,393 2
    • American Indian and Alaska Native 348 0.5
    • Asian 7,841 11.2
    • Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 91 0.1
    • Some other race 6,020 8.6



    • HISPANIC OR LATINO AND RACE
    • Total population 69,840 100
    • Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 7,665 11
    • Mexican 1,312 1.9
    • Puerto Rican 3,459 5
    • Cuban 212 0.3
    • Other Hispanic or Latino 2,682 3.8
    • Not Hispanic or Latino 62,175 89
    • White alone 50,480 72.3



  • RELATIONSHIP
    • Total population 69,840 100
    • In households 69,521 99.5
    • Householder 31,511 45.1
    • Spouse 12,433 17.8
    • Child 17,496 25.1
    • Own child under 18 years 11,917 17.1
    • Other relatives 4,748 6.8
    • Under 18 years 776 1.1
    • Nonrelatives 3,333 4.8
    • Unmarried partner 1,182 1.7
    • In group quarters 319 0.5
    • Institutionalized population 0 0
    • Noninstitutionalized population 319 0.5



  • HOUSEHOLDS BY TYPE
    • Total households 31,511 100
    • Family households (families) 16,873 53.5
    • With own children under 18 years 6,890 21.9
    • Married-couple family 12,433 39.5
    • With own children under 18 years 5,462 17.3
    • Female householder, no husband present 3,150 10
    • With own children under 18 years 1,130 3.6
    • Nonfamily households 14,638 46.5
    • Householder living alone 12,698 40.3
    • Householder 65 years and over 4,499 14.3



    • Households with individuals under 18 years 7,398 23.5
    • Households with individuals 65 years and over 8,957 28.4
    • Average household size 2.21 (X)
    • Average family size 3.06 (X)



  • HOUSING OCCUPANCY
    • Total housing units 32,783 100
    • Occupied housing units 31,511 96.1
    • Vacant housing units 1,272 3.9
    • For seasonal, recreational, or occasional use 96 0.3


    • Homeowner vacancy rate (percent) 1.3 (X)
    • Rental vacancy rate (percent) 2 (X)

  • HOUSING TENURE
    • Occupied housing units 31,511 100
    • Owner-occupied housing units 8,948 28.4
    • Renter-occupied housing units 22,563 71.6



    • Average household size of owner-occupied unit 2.52 (X)
    • Average household size of renter-occupied unit 2.08 (X)



(X) Not applicable
1 Other Asian alone, or two or more Asian categories.
2 Other Pacific Islander alone, or two or more Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander categories.
3 In combination with one or more other races listed. The six numbers may add to more than the total population and the six percentages may add to more than 100 percent because individuals may report more than one race.
Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Census 2000 Summary File 1, Matrices P1, P3, P4, P8, P9, P12, P13, P,17, P18, P19, P20, P23, P27, P28, P33, PCT5, PCT8, PCT11, PCT15, H1, H3, H4, H5, H11, and H12.

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Christina 4.5.08

1. Thank you sooo much for ordering the book!!!! 2. Yup, got some of that info from The Bay Ridge Chronicles! 3. NEYRA: YOU HAVE NEVER EATEN AT LENNYS?????? THATS BLASHPHEMY!!!
Lenny's pizza is amazing! Its actually owned by the same guys who make Nino's pizza, which is on 3rd ave and is super delicious. Only thing is, Lenny's is not in Bay Ridge, its in Bensonhurst. But we can eat there anyway. Just because they have good pizza lol XD

But wow....never eaten at Lenny's. You've at least eaten at L&B, right? Spulmoni Gardens? BECAUSE IF YOU HAVEN'T I AM SHOVING YOU IN A CAR AND TAKING YOU THERE RIGHT NOW!!!

  • ahem* yes welll...
  • goes back to looking for demographics*

What cenus track(s) should I use? hmmm? A bunch of them? Since Bay Ridge is a decent size neighborhood....

Neyra 040408

Many of the same people who established Christ Church then busied themselves establishing Bay Ridge. On December 16, they gathered to rename the area, as Yellow Hook had acquired a negative association with the dreaded Yellow Fever. Christ Church Vestryman Weir proposed the topographically-appropriate name of Bay Ridge. http://www.nycago.org/Organs/Bkln/html/ChristChurchBayRidge.html Christ Church, Bay Ridge (Episcopal) 7301 Ridge Boulevard Brooklyn, NY 11209


Without a doubt, the handsomest building fronting on 5th Avenue in the Neighborhood with No Name is the McGovern-Weir greenhouse on 25th Street. The florist has been in business since the 1850s (The James Weir Floral Company is located on Montague Street in Brooklyn Heights). In 1853, Yellow Hook was renamed Bay Ridge at [James] Weir's suggestion, since the area's former name, Yellow Hook, reminded many of a yellow fever epidemic (I think it might be fun to interview them too!)

  • The new name was inspired by the Upper New York Bay and a ridge running along what is now Ridge Boulevard

and the "ridge" also originated from the fact that there are many step streets in the area such as this one: http://www.forgotten-ny.com/forgottentour20/colinfny053.jpg *


http://cooperator.com/articles/1111/1/The-City-By-the-Bay/Page1.html - some more info.

http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Map/Bay.1.2.html (1873)

http://spiderbites.nytimes.com/articles/free/free185309.html - I'll see if there's anything useful here.



Lenny’s Pizzeria on 86th Street — made famous in the opening sequence of “Saturday Night Fever” (we should go there, if we include the SNF clip!)


Phil 040808

This book is in the BC Lib., and I'm going to try to pick up a copy today for you at BHS.

Author: Reiss. Marcia.
Title: Bay Ridge and Fort Hamilton neighborhood history guide
Publisher: Brooklyn, NY : Brooklyn Historical Society, c2003.



Phil 040408

I've ordered a copy of this from Amazon:

Bay Ridge (Images of America) (Paperback) by Peter Scarpa (Author), Lawrence Stelter (Author), Peter Syrdahl (Author)

Maybe, if the Historical Society is defunct you could nevertheless contact one of the authors?

Authors Peter Scarpa, Lawrence Stelter, and Peter Syrdahl of the Bay Ridge Historical Society have performed extensive research to bring together this collection of rare photographs and the stories behind them.


Phil 040408

1790s or 1850s or 1880s?

Maybe you could find this guy to see where he got his info? Probably from the Bay Ridge Chronicles, but....

Neyra found this already.

History Thing of the past? By Joe Jordan for The Brooklyn Paper

http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/30/50/30_50history.html

What’s in a name? Here’s what: When the first Dutch settlers arrived in this neck of the woods in the 1500s, they called the area Yellow Hook, after the strange tint of the local soil.

But in 1853, an outbreak of fatal Yellow Fever broke out. As news of the growing epidemic spread, many locals were concerned that the name “Yellow Hook” might be associated with the disease and subsequently spoil a wave of planned development in the area.

And so, on a cold winter’s day — Dec. 16, 1853 — a group of local prominent landowners voted unanimously to rename Yellow Hook as Bay Ridge and save their fellow residents in the real-estate business.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Yacht_Club

The club's original clubhouse was a barge that was moored at the foot of Court Street at the end of Gowanus Creek, facing Gowanus Bay. In the early 1880s, the club acquired a waterfront farm property on 55th Street in Yellow Hook, Brooklyn. The neighborhood subsequently assumed the name of Bay Ridge, a name suggested by club-member, former Commodore and leading Brooklyn florist, James Weir. The converted clubhouse was soon replaced by a larger facility constructed at the end of the club's new pier at the end of 55th Street. A marina and anchorage were established at the same site at that time.



http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE3DF1F3FF933A25755C0A9679C8B63

If You're Thinking of Living In/Red Hook; Isolated Brooklyn Area Starts to Awaken

By AARON DONOVAN Published: June 10, 2001

The Dutch gave Red Hook its name in the 17th century for its peninsular shape and its ruddy soil, said John Manbeck, the Brooklyn borough historian. (Another bulge on the Brooklyn shore -- now known as Bay Ridge -- was called Yellow Hook until yellow fever epidemics in the 1790's made the name unsavory, Mr. Manbeck said.)



Phil 040308

Check out the NYPL Digital Collection for map images of Bay Ridge.

http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/id?1517501

Bay ridge NYPL.jpg

Creator: Ullitz, Hugo -- Engineer

Image Caption:

 Double Page Plate No. 16: [Bounded by Second Avenue, Senator Street (Cowenhoven Lane), Third Avenue, 60th Street, Seventh Avenue, Bay Ridge Avenue, Sixth Avenue, 80th Street, Fourth Avenue and 79th Street.]

Alternate Image Caption: Part of Ward 30, Land Map Section, No. 18. Volume 2, Brooklyn Borough, New York City.

In: Atlases of New York city. > Atlas of the Brooklyn borough of the City of New York : originally Kings Co.; complete in three volumes ... based upon official maps and plans ... / by and under the supervision of Hugo Ullitz, C.E. (published 1898-1899)

Library Division: Humanities and Social Sciences Library / The Lionel Pincus and Princess Firyal Map Division

Description: 1 atlas (3 v.) : col. maps (folded) ; 70 cm.

Item/Page/Plate Number: Plate 16

Specific Material Type: Maps

Subject(s): Brooklyn (New York, N.Y.) -- Maps Real property -- New York (State) -- New York -- Maps

Collection Guide: Early Real Estate Atlases of New York

Digital Image ID: 1517501

Digital Record ID: 778418

Digital Record Published: 8-11-2006; updated 10-5-2007

NYPL Call Number: Map Div.+++ (Brooklyn) (Hyde, E. B., Map Co., Inc. Atlas of the Brooklyn borough) [Vols. 1 & 2 disbound and filed with sheet map



Phil 040308

You certainly could interview them.

It might be fun.

Christina 4.3.08

If you want to find out more information on James Weir, the guy who suggested the name Bay Ridge, his flower company is still in business. Maybe we can talk to his family or something as an oral history?
James Weir Floral Co
160 Montague St, Brooklyn, NY 11201
Local: 718-624-0270




Phil

Is there anything useful here?

Brooklyn History Bibliography

Or here?

A History of the City of Brooklyn by Henry Stiles, 1867

   * Volume 1
   * Volume 2
   * Volume 3




Christina

This is totally random!!

Brooklyn Borough President Marty Markowitz issued a proclamation on Tuesday, August 22nd [2006] at a brief ceremony in Bay Ridge in front of a fully blooming Hydrangea bush, formally designating the Hydrangea as the floral emblem of Bay Ridge.

We have an official flower--the Hydrangea!!!

Christina

This is just cool: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/28/nyregion/thecity/28caps.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
http://www.brooklynhomeowner.com/bayridge.php
We could also contact these people: The Bay Ridge Sesquicentennial Committee
8703 Third Avenue
Brooklyn, New York 11209-5103
Telephone: 1 (718) 748 - 5200

Even though its over, maybe they still have some info?


South Brooklyn is north of southern Brooklyn because until 1894 the Red Hook area (South Brooklyn) was the southernmost part of the City of Brooklyn. Bay Ridge was originally called "Yellow Hook" until a yellow fever epidemic struck and the name was changed. Suggested reading:

The Brooklyn Almanac by Margaret Latimer is a history of Kings County/City of Brooklyn/Borough of Brooklyn. Some problems with geography, but a good resource. Ms. Latimer also wrote Two Cities that describes month-by-month life in New York City (Manhattan and the western Bronx) and in the City of Brooklyn (the northern-third of Kings County) in 1883, the year the Brooklyn bridge was built.



this is being editing lol XD

James Weir, a florist with nurseries and greenhouses in the Village of Yellow Hook in the Township of New Utrecht and flower shops in the then City of Brooklyn suggested the name be changed to 'Bay Ridge.'"
--> This flower shop STILL EXISTS
"Without a doubt, the handsomest building fronting on 5th Avenue in the Neighborhood with No Name is the McGovern-Weir greenhouse on 25th Street. The florist has been in business since the 1850s (The James Weir Floral Company is located on Montague Street in Brooklyn Heights). In 1853, Yellow Hook was renamed Bay Ridge at Weir's suggestion, since the area's former name, Yellow Hook, reminded many of a yellow fever epidemic."

25th Street and 5th Avenue....? Or is it on Montague Street? I will google! Either way its a trek....I'll see if my momma can drive us :D (or just me...its one picture after all lol)

Places we need to visit:

"schoolhouse then on Third Avenue near 73rd Street" was where the meeting was held!

      • The closest school I can find to this is Bay Ridge Prep (on 74th and 4th) lol. Ironic, no? XD



Christ Church Bay Ridge History in Brief

By JIM GUTHRIE

Shortly after purchasing land and building a home in what was then Yellow Hook in 1851, Joseph A. Perry, manager of the Green-Wood Cemetery, persuaded his parish’s Rector the Rev. Dr. John Seeley Stone of Christ Church Clinton Street, of the need for an Episcopal Church in Bay Ridge. Gathering friends and neighbors, including Theodore Sedgwick, Daniel Richards, Charles Prince, A.F. Spear, A. M. McGrath and others, 'Perry persuaded them to contribute to purchase land and build a church in the section known as Ovington Village, at the corner of what is now 68th St and Third Avenue.

Emily Constable Perry gave the stained glass windows, John B. Kitching the organ, and Mrs. Henry B. Pierrepont (Joseph Perry’s mother-in-law) gave the Chancel furniture. Mr. Perry and Mr. Kitching were elected Wardens. Sedgwick, Richards, William C. Langley, Joseph Dunderdale, Benjamin Townsend, George Fletcher, David C. Winslow and James Weir were elected to the first parish Vestry.

Many of the same people who established Christ Church then busied themselves establishing Bay Ridge. On December 16, they gathered to rename the area, as Yellow Hook had acquired a negative association with the dreaded Yellow Fever. Christ Church Vestryman Weir proposed the topographically-appropriate name of Bay Ridge. By simple decision of this ad hoc group (that also included Townsend, Perry, and Langley, as well as Henry C. Murphy. Jacques Van Brunt, J. Remsen Bennett, Winant, W. Bennett, and Isaac Bergen) they renamed the area. Weir remained active on Christ Church’s Vestry until his death in 1891.

As more and more people moved to Bay Ridge in the later part of the nineteenth century, the 1853 building became inadequate for the size of the congregation. Worse, neighborhood growth brought an extension of the Fifth Avenue El by the Brooklyn City Railroad in 1895 to Third Avenue, but instead of extending the El to Fort Hamilton, the company saved money by simply building a ramp for El trains to reach the street. El trains on the street did not work out, but by 1902 trolleys clattered up and down the El ramp within a few feet of the church, disrupting worship.


Bay Ridge began life as Yellow Hook, a reflection of the yellow soil that used to cover the land in the 17th century. While its neighbor to the north, Red Hook, kept its colorful name, Yellow Hook became Bay Ridge when yellow fever swept the country in the mid-19th century.

After that, the neighborhood became a retreat for New York's elite, who built a string of homes along Shore Road. Once the subway was extended south to Bay Ridge in the 1910's, a new group of immigrants moved into the neighborhood, spawning a wave of construction and bringing a new way of life. Not long after, Bay Ridge became synonymous with working-class Brooklyn, with the opening of the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge in 1964 and the filming of "Saturday Night Fever" with John Travolta.


But in 1853, an outbreak of fatal Yellow Fever broke out. As news of the growing epidemic spread, many locals were concerned that the name “Yellow Hook” might be associated with the disease and subsequently spoil a wave of planned development in the area.

And so, on a cold winter’s day — Dec. 16, 1853 — a group of local prominent landowners voted unanimously to rename Yellow Hook as Bay Ridge and save their fellow residents in the real-estate business.

http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/30/50/30_50history.html


BAY RIDGE. Bay Ridge was the name chose for Yellow Hook about 1850. A group of residents formed the Ovington Village Association. James WEIR, florist, suggested the new name. It applied to a territory running from Sixty-first Street, the New Utrecht town line to about Eighty-sixth Street, and to Stewart Avenue, now Sixth Avenue and New York Bay. Joseph PERRY built the first home. The Bay Ridge Park Improvement Association controlled about 3,000 acres from Fort Hamilton Avenue to Fourteenth Avenue, and from Ovington Avenue southward to Eighty-sixth Street. The company opened Bay Ridge Avenue to Thirteenth Avenue, and Thirteenth Avenue for its entire length from Ovington Avenue and Eighty-sixth Street. Bath Beach in its early days was know as Bath Village until about 1889, when it was changed to Bath Beach, and throned upon the grassy plateau backed by woodlands. It was originally New Utrecht Beach, located between the waterfront and Eighty-sixth Street, DeBruyn¹s lane (now Twentieth Avenue) and Bennett¹s Lane (now Sixteenth Avenue). It contained fine homes and very fine clubs. John Lott NOSTRAND was its wealthiest resident fifty years ago. John I. VOORHEES lived into the nineties at Bath Beach. John Scott NOSTRAND and Archibald YOUNG were the first to develop the farms into building lots in 1880-1885.

http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Newspaper/BSU/Anniversary/ManyVillages.html



Neyra

John Paul Jones Park, also known as Fort Hamilton Park and Cannonball Park, is the site of one of the world's last remaining Rodman guns. http://www.nycgovparks.org/sub_your_park/historical_signs/hs_historical_sign.php?id=11908 (around 95th and 4 av.?)

Dillon Mansion on 99th Street.

James F. Farrell House,95th street near Shore Road

Narrows Avenue and 83rd Street just across from Fort Hamilton High School, is probably the most extreme example in NYC of the Arts and Crafts school of architecture (*In front you can see a bluestone plate used for passengers to alight from carriages in the days before the streets were paved.)

Gelston Avenue is one of Bay Ridge's oldest named streets; it turns up on maps from the 1870s

the "Revolutionary Cemetery" in Bay Ridge, at the corner of Narrows Avenue and Mackay Place was founded in 1725 by Dutch immigrant William Harmans Barkaloo. ( was founded in 1725 by Dutch immigrant William Harmans Barkaloo. The "revolutionary" appellation comes from a plaque erected in 1962 on the protective gate, which indicates that several Revolutionary War veterans are buried here; though some historians dismiss the claim as spurious, others say that William Barkaloo's sons, Harmans and Jacques, fought in the Battle of Brooklyn, which raged in Bay Ridge and throughout the towns of New Utrecht and Brooklyn. The last burial took place in 1848.)

http://www.forgotten-ny.com/STREET%20SCENES/bayridge/bayridge.html http://bayridge.net/community/history.htm#hist02 http://bayridgebrooklyn.blogspot.com/2008/02/bay-ridge-methodist-church-historical.html http://www.nycgovparks.org/sub_your_park/historical_signs/hs_historical_sign.php?id=11908


Yellow Fever Randomness: A turning point in the history of Yellow Hook took place in 1848-1849 as a result of the Yellow Fever epidemic. The inspection and quarantine of vessels entering American waters was primitive, and a ship entered the harbor with Yellow Fever aboard. Contaminated bedding and clothing tossed overboard were carried by the tides to the beaches of Nieuw Utrecht spreading the pestilence. The fisher-farmers of Yellow Hook were among the worst victims of the fever. The death rate soared alarmingly and many farmers fled their homes. 0thers gave away their homesteads. Fort Hamilton was abandoned as was prize property along Shore Road which lay deserted.

Victor

Landmarks in Bay Ridge:

Bay Ridge Methodist Church Fourth and Ovington Avenues http://bayridgebrooklyn.blogspot.com/2008/02/rally-to-save-bay-ridge-methodist_16.html http://hdcvoice.blogspot.com/2008/02/rally-to-save-green-church-in-bay-ridge.html http://www.brooklyneagle.com/categories/category.php?category_id=27&id=19507

Alpine Theatre http://hdcvoice.blogspot.com/2006/05/news-bay-ridges-alpine-theater-saved.html


Greek Revival House 1847 95th Street http://tools.isovera.com/organizations.php3?action=printContentItem&orgid=79&typeID=644&itemID=11151&User_Session=93ba6b64f2bffdca682085c6abaa404f

Brooklyn Army Terminal / 58th Street Pier 58th St & 1st Ave, Brooklyn, NY, Brooklyn, NY

Verrazano-Narrows Bridge Shore Pkwy & Belt Pkwy, Brooklyn, NY, Brooklyn, NY

Landmarks, Brooklyn http://outside.in/Brooklyn_NY/places/category/Landmarks

Maybe we could check some of these out- find some old photos of them, and use that to start our page? Our past/present virtual tour?

Christina

Fabulous. I'd also like to put in some history on the yellow fever epidemic in general, aside from the one in Bay Ridge. And I know some places we can photograph, such as the school where the meeting originally took place! And if we cant find images from the 1850s, if you'd like, you could maybe do some "artist's renditions" of the places, little sketches of what they may have looked like, etc. That is, if its not too much work!

I'll be hitting up google images and JSTOR, just to see what we can find before we go to the historical society :)


http://www.squidoo.com/brooklyn-genealogy

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9B05E7DA113DE53BBC4153DFB667838B669FDE

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=980DE6D81339E134BC4953DFBF66838D649FDE

Victor

What I think we should do for our Wiki, is provide a preliminary layout of Bay Ridge now (2008) and then (1800s). Maybe take some pictures and discuss some of the current and then dated land marks in the area. Like 86th street and other major areas, and then the lakes that have been filled in and sites which are no longer standing. I know there is a photo of a body of water where Century 21 is currently standing. We could find photos from then and then show what it was like in the 1800s. I’d like to construct a small looping slide show which displays photographs of Bay Ridge now, and then have them fade to older shots. We can hopefully find some photos. And that'll be our segway into the yellow fever. We could provide the facts about yellow fever and how it effect Bay Ridge, and couple that with the info from a real doctor. This gives us a history, a detour into historical research and text, as well as an interview. I also can contact my American History expert and see if he knows anything about it which he can be interviewed about.

And from there, I'd honestly like to couple our research with some arts. Maybe we could have some drawings? I could do some diagrams of the disease and its effect on the body-I’ve done this for science classes before, it shouldn’t be too much of a problem. And, if we can find any personal accounts of the disease, I'd like to add some form of historical fiction into it. If we can find a first-hand account, waybe we can all co-write something based on it, a short story that would describe what it would have been like back then. This would be similar to the book’s we’ve been reading in class. And since both Christina and myself are creative writing majors and Neyra is interested in writing, this could work out.

What does everyone think of this?

Christina

Victor, I know we should be talking to a real doctor, but here's a prilimary bit on Yellow Fever, courtesy of WebMD:

Yellow Fever

Yellow Fever:

Synonyms: Bunyavirus Infection

Disorder Subdivisions: None

General Discussion

Yellow Fever is a viral infection that causes damage to the liver, kidney, heart and gastrointestinal tract. Major symptoms may include sudden onset of fever, yellowing of the skin (jaundice) and hemorrhage. It occurs predominately in South America, the Caribbean Islands and Africa. The disease is spread through bites of infected mosquitos. Incidence of the disease tends to increase in the summer as the mosquito population increases, and it occurs year round in tropical climates.

Yellow Fever has two cycles: the sylvan cycle in which mosquitos primarily spread the disease among forest-dwelling primates, and the urban cycle in which the infection is spread from human to human."

I didn't know it caused hemorrhage o.0!


More Info can be found at the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, a fabulous fabulous website!

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/yellowfever/YF_FactSheet.html

The fact sheet is GOD <3!

Christina

Real photographs will be AMAZING!
THANK YOU!!!!!

Just an update

I picked up two books out of the library today, including "The Bay Ridge Chronicles: 1524-1976" which is SUPER helpful. It gives a really basic history, but its just such a cool book XD!

More when it comes. Right now I'm swamped with papers o.0!

Victor

Woah... I feel like a deer in the headlights. I've been following along with the information, but I have yet to match any of it.

I've found some photographs that may be from the time period we need- just to give us a visual idea of what Bay Ridge, or "Yellow Hook" looked like at the time of the fever epidemic. I've been digging around my family history for anything that would help us, but nothing dates before 1901 in Bay Ridge.

I'll post the photographs as soon as I can get them. And Hopefully some of them will help us.

Ps. Thank you Phil and Christina for the cornucopia of information which I am still processing.

Pps. FINALLY, I have.. some info... to break Christina's posting streak.

Christina

Map of where Yellow Fever hit
map of bay ridge

Christina

THANK YOU! I didn't even know we had a Bay Ridge historical society! Awesome! *is excited* We could totally use their help :)

...One thing....

That address is a PO Box, and the phone number is for a residence. o.0. Is this one girl (Susan J Pulaski, according to Yellowbook.com) really the Bay Ridge Historical Society? Should I email her? I feel a bit awkward...

I mean I could try contacting her? But do you think she has any information? The number if for her apartment, after all...

What do you guys think?

Phil

This is a short description of what Christina has been talking about: http://rightinbayridge.blogspot.com/2007/12/happy-birthday-bay-ridge.html

Contact these guys!

Bay Ridge Historical Society
Address: P.O. Box 483 Fort Hamilton, NY
Phone: 718-680-0945
Email: SJPulaski@aol.com
URL: http://www.bayridge.com



Lief Ericson Park

Christina

Should we visit?

	"Without a doubt, the handsomest building fronting on 5th Avenue in the Neighborhood with No Name is the McGovern-Weir greenhouse on 25th Street. The florist has been in business since the 1850s (The James Weir Floral Company is located on Montague Street in Brooklyn Heights). In 1853, Yellow Hook was renamed Bay Ridge at Weir's suggestion, since the area's former name, Yellow Hook, reminded many of a yellow fever epidemic."

http://www.forgotten-ny.com/NEIGHBORHOODS/greenwoodhts/gwoodhts2.html

I found some more, mostly their "For Library Use Only" at the Central Library:

An account of the yellow fever : as it prevailed in the city of New-York, in the summer and autumn of 1822 / by Peter S. Townsend.
The date Bay Ridge's named was changed was later, but it'll still be helpful to give us a background!

American Plague : the untold story of yellow fever, the epidemic that shaped our history / Molly Caldwell Crosby.

Yellow fever in the North : the methods of early epidemiology / William Coleman.

VERY IMPORTANT ARTICLES http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9C04E6D81339E134BC4850DFBE66838D649FDE&scp=2&sq=yellow+hook+bay+ridge&st=p
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9501EFD81339E134BC4E53DFBF66838D649FDE&scp=3&sq=yellow+hook+bay+ridge&st=p



Thank you soo much! I requested the Bay Ridge Chronicles book from the library, so hopefully it will be sent to my local library. That book sounds really, really helpful...probably since it has Yellow Hook in the title XD! Hopefully I can go to the NY Public Library sometime soon and check it out. The central library there has a LOT of stuff, although I'm not so sure how much it will have on Bay Ridge. Still, I figure its worth a shot. And the Central Library in Brooklyn is beautiful. I'll see if I can get there soon. Meanwhile, I'll see what I can get sent to my local library so I can do some preliminary research. I also wanna check out the historical society for copies of some local Bay Ridge papers, since I'm sure they'll have been LOTS of articles from when the name was changed. Is there any way I an email them and ask before I go down there again?

And thanks for everything!

Phil

Outstanding!

You might try the Brooklyn Public Main Library Main Library Brooklyn Collection.

http://www.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/brooklyncollection/

Brooklyn Collection Brooklyn Public Library Grand Army Plaza Brooklyn, NY 11238 Phone: 718.230.2762 Fax: 718.857.2245

Their hours are strange, so check the website.

They have files on most Brooklyn neighborhoods, and the Bay Ridge branch may have a few historical files too.

Also check out Ken Jackson's Neighborhoods of Brooklyn. While I don't have it in front of me, there is a bibliography attached to each neighborhood profile.

Here are a few other items, taken from the BPL collection database:

Brooklyn's Bay Ridge and Fort Hamilton : a photographic journey, 1870-1970 / by Brian Merlis and Lee : Brooklyn's Bay Ridge and Fort Hamilton : a photographic journey, 1870-1970 / by Brian Merlis and Lee A. Rosenzweig.

A walking tour of historic Bay Ridge / by Thomas Schiera. : A walking tour of historic Bay Ridge / by Thomas Schiera.

Bay Ridge courier. : Bay Ridge courier. JOURNALS 1978-

The Norwegians in Bay Ridge : a sociological study of an ethnic group. : The Norwegians in Bay Ridge : a sociological study of an ethnic group. PRINTED MATL 1977

The Bay Ridge chronicles; being a chronicle of the events and people that have made up the history o : The Bay Ridge chronicles; being a chronicle of the events and people that have made up the history of that area of Brooklyn formerly known as Yellow Hook, bounded on the east by 14th Avenue, on the west by the Bay, on the north by 60th Street and on the south by the Narrows.

A community survey; Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, New York. A paper submitted in partial fulfillment of the r : A community survey; Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, New York. A paper submitted in partial fulfillment of the requirements of Education 272 ... by Father Walter Vetro and Brother Thaddeus.

The History of Christ Church Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, New York, 1853-1953 : in the city and in the field : The History of Christ Church Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, New York, 1853-1953 : in the city and in the field / compiled by Sarah Mary Wilson Huntley.

The community in which you live : highlights and sidelights of the story of Bay Ridge, proud survivo : The community in which you live : highlights and sidelights of the story of Bay Ridge, proud survivor of the old Dutch town of New Utrecht in the Borough of Brooklyn, New York City.


Christina:

thank you so much! Here;s the notes I have to add: http://rightinbayridge.blogspot.com/2007/12/happy-birthday-bay-ridge.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_Ridge,_Brooklyn
http://iarchives.nysed.gov/RNYHC/r_subSearchServlet?cat=ALL
I also have some files saved, I'll post them here, too!

Yellow Fever Letter from NY Times


Phil

Phil: A search on Bay Ridge in JStor yielded these results.

Cultural Variables in the Ecology of an Ethnic Group Christen T. Jonassen American Sociological Review > Vol. 14, No. 1 (Feb., 1949), pp. 32-41 Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0003-1224%28194902%2914%3A1%3C32%3ACVITEO%3E2.0.CO%3B2-F Article Information | Page of First Match | Print | Download | Save Citation

14. From Promenade to Park: The Gregarious Origins of Brooklyn's Park Movement Daniel M. Bluestone American Quarterly > Vol. 39, No. 4 (Winter, 1987), pp. 529-550 Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0003-0678%28198724%2939%3A4%3C529%3AFPTPTG%3E2.0.CO%3B2-8 Article Information | Page of First Match | Print | Download | Save Citation 15. An Idea Grows in Brooklyn The American Journal of Nursing > Vol. 48, No. 6 (Jun., 1948), pp. 378-379 Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0002-936X%28194806%2948%3A6%3C378%3AAIGIB%3E2.0.CO%3B2-%23 NOTE: This article contains high-quality images. Article Information | Page of First Match | Print | Download | Save Citation 16. The New York City Spanish Fiestas-A City-Wide Project David S. Goldberg Hispania > Vol. 15, No. 4 (Oct., 1932), pp. 381-386 Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0018-2133%28193210%2915%3A4%3C381%3ATNYCSF%3E2.0.CO%3B2-%23 Article Information | Page of First Match | Print | Download | Save Citation

19. An American Revolutionary War Relic from Brooklyn, New York Ralph S. Solecki; Dwight B. Demeritt, Jr. Journal of Field Archaeology > Vol. 7, No. 3 (Autumn, 1980), pp. 269-278 Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0093-4690%28198023%297%3A3%3C269%3AAARWRF%3E2.0.CO%3B2-L NOTE: This article contains high-quality images. Article Information | Page of First Match | Print | Download | Save Citation 20. The Battle of Long Island Charles Francis Adams The American Historical Review > Vol. 1, No. 4 (Jul., 1896), pp. 650-670 Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0002-8762%28189607%291%3A4%3C650%3ATBOLI%3E2.0.CO%3B2-H Article Information | Page of First Match | Print | Download | Save Citation 21. The Economic Necessity for the Pennsylvania Railroad Tunnel Extension into New York City A. J. County Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science > Vol. 29, Railway and Traffic Problems (Mar., 1907), pp. 1-15 Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0002-7162%28190703%2929%3C1%3ATENFTP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-V Article Information | Page of First Match | Print | Download | Save Citation 22. New York City Notes and Queries Arthur Minton American Speech > Vol. 27, No. 4 (Dec., 1952), pp. 291-293 Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0003-1283%28195212%2927%3A4%3C291%3ANYCNAQ%3E2.0.CO%3B2-8 Article Information | Page of First Match | Print | Download | Save Citation 23. Is the Atlantic Coast Sinking? Douglas W. Johnson Geographical Review > Vol. 3, No. 2 (Feb., 1917), pp. 135-139 Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0016-7428%28191702%293%3A2%3C135%3AITACS%3E2.0.CO%3B2-Y Article Information | Page of First Match | Print | Download | Save Citation

25. A Community Health Fair Mary E. Keaveny The American Journal of Nursing > Vol. 74, No. 2 (Feb., 1974), pp. 270-271 Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0002-936X%28197402%2974%3A2%3C270%3AACHF%3E2.0.CO%3B2-R NOTE: This article contains high-quality images. Article Information | Page of First Match | Print | Download | Save Citation

35. Land Values in New York City G. B. L. Arner The Quarterly Journal of Economics > Vol. 36, No. 4 (Aug., 1922), pp. 545-580 Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0033-5533%28192208%2936%3A4%3C545%3ALVINYC%3E2.0.CO%3B2-K Article Information | Page of First Match | Print | Download | Save Citation 36. The Diversity of New York City: Comments on the Real Property Inventory of 1934 John K. Wright Geographical Review > Vol. 26, No. 4 (Oct., 1936), pp. 620-639 Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0016-7428%28193610%2926%3A4%3C620%3ATDONYC%3E2.0.CO%3B2-W